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Blue Maniac said:
Still nobody's explained to me why Sky's coverage of the game has to inconvenience the people attending the games. I've no problem with Sky broadcasting games, but why do they insist on doing it at a time that means I pay anything up to £50 extra to attend a game?
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What time on a Monday would not inconvenience you if we remove Saturday @ 3.00 as a sensible SKY option?
 
camberwell fox said:
What time on a Monday would not inconvenience you if we remove Saturday @ 3.00 as a sensible SKY option?
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Why Monday at all? And why is Saturday at 3pm not a sensible option? It was perfectly sensible before the days of constant televised football, why should the presence of television cameras dictate that proper football times should be eliminated from the list of possibilities?
 
Blue Maniac said:
Why Monday at all? And why is Saturday at 3pm not a sensible option? It was perfectly sensible before the days of constant televised football, why should the presence of television cameras dictate that proper football times should be eliminated from the list of possibilities?
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Apparantly Sky cannot broadcast a game when other games are taking place so that they do not drag audiences away. I don't agree with it, but I think that is the rule put in place by someone other than Sky
 
beighton155 said:
Apparantly Sky cannot broadcast a game when other games are taking place so that they do not drag audiences away. I don't agree with it, but I think that is the rule put in place by someone other than Sky
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But those who insisted on this rule are prepared to allow some games to be made virtually inaccessible to away fans for the sake of a few extra pieces of silver? Why not move all games to ridiculous times and get a sack of cash for every game? Why not move Manchester United games to the middle of the night to satisfy their huge Asian market? Better yet, play the games in Kuala Lumpur or Tokyo.

The point is, there has to be a breaking point where fans - by which I mean people who actually attend games of football - simply walk away because it's too difficult to follow their team.
 
beighton155 said:
Apparantly Sky cannot broadcast a game when other games are taking place so that they do not drag audiences away. I don't agree with it, but I think that is the rule put in place by someone other than Sky
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They show games when others are being played mainly during the week though.
 
Follow the Italian blue print.
 
alex said:
Playing devil's advocat a minute - are we suggesting we would like the football to be at the place it was pre-Sky? Whilst it may not have served us the true greats of the game, do we not agree that post Sky money the players and Premier League itself is the best in the world? Would it be without the money? Is it better this way?
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I think the Premier League is garbage. It doesn't interest me in the slightest. The top four teams are always going to be the same come the end of the season, and there's always one or two teams who throw some cash about, look promising at the start of the season, but fade away by Christmas.

The rest of the Premier League is made up of teams punching well above their weight, desperately fighting relegation.

As for the money issue, I find it interesting that with the odd exception, teams relegated from the top flight struggle in the Championship, both on and off the pitch. The number of ex-PL teams that have been relegated to League One is staggering; all three relegated teams last season were playing top flight football just a few seasons ago, and the likes of Derby and Cov were lucky to stay up.

alex said:
A popular thing to say, for sure, however stats would indicate that attendances are up and have been steadily increasing since SKY took over.
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Some clubs have benefitted from the Sky era, but as I understand it, attendances have been increasing since Italia 90, with a huge resurgence following Euro 96. This is for match attendances and television subscriptions. Interest tends to be cyclical, and at some point, the bubble will burst.

I don't think all clubs are seeing increases in attendances; watching MoTD, and seeing the crowds at places like Wigan and Blackburn, I would be surprised if their attendances weren't going down.

I have also read somewhere that clubs in the lower leagues are seeing increases as fans of the big teams are unable to get tickets for their preferred team so are watching their local team instead. Can't remember where I read that though.
 
Some interesting thoughts Lee.
Sky has certainly helped create a monster.
Football has never been a more results driven business than now. When you see teams in the top flight field understrength teams in our cup competitions so saving their stars for the league, a league they've got no chance of winning, but have to stay in to survive.
As for Sky and TV games, IMO, it should be decided before the season has started what games will be televised. That way people can make arrangements well in advance if they want to watch a game live, and not have to "throw a sicky" etc.
 
H T B said:
As for Sky and TV games, IMO, it should be decided before the season has started what games will be televised. That way people can make arrangements well in advance if they want to watch a game live, and not have to "throw a sicky" etc.
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Exactly with consulting the Police etc. Nice and early...no changes or at least three months notice.
 
LeeH said:
I have also read somewhere that clubs in the lower leagues are seeing increases as fans of the big teams are unable to get tickets for their preferred team so are watching their local team instead. Can't remember where I read that though.
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Good post.

I've read that too. Not just lower league teams, plenty of non-league teams are seeing fans of Premiership teams attending their games through either being disillusioned, priced out or not able to get tickets.
 
Some lower league clubs equally need a reality check IMO.

Going Meadow Lane Saturday will cost £20. That's three grounds I visited at that level in the past six months who charge that amount.
 
cleefox said:
Good post.

I've read that too. Not just lower league teams, plenty of non-league teams are seeing fans of Premiership teams attending their games through either being disillusioned, priced out or not able to get tickets.
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One of the Bromsgrove fans I met on the way back from Hereford last season was, once upon a time, a Villa season ticket holder. He switched his loyalties purely because of the cost. And the truth is, he enjoys it more now.
 
Blue Maniac said:
One of the Bromsgrove fans I met on the way back from Hereford last season was, once upon a time, a Villa season ticket holder. He switched his loyalties purely because of the cost. And the truth is, he enjoys it more now.
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I know a number of ex-Man Utd season ticket holders who swopped to lower league teams as part of the Glazer protest and then found they enjoyed it more and wouldn't go back now.
 
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