RIP Thatcher

[Jeff]

One thing I keep seeing among all the legitimate criticisms is a very odd stick being used to beat Thatcher: that she called Nelson Mandela a terrorist. Now, if a founding member of a terrorist organisation responsible for a series of bombings and terrorist attacks resulting in the deaths of many innocent people isn't a terrorist, who is?

He was in prison when the deaths of innocent people happened. Was he responsible for things that happened when he was locked up?

 

[Biffa Bacon]

This is doing the rounds on social media:

 

[MKFox]

Land mass doesn't make you scary!

you not seen mrs homer?

 

[Real Sharapova]

you not seen mrs homer?

Only if you've had several stiff drinks.

 

[spionfox]

This is doing the rounds on social media:

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Then the people who are circulating it are morons as it isn't going to be a state funeral.

 

[Biffa Bacon]

Then the people who are circulating it are morons as it isn't going to be a state funeral.

It may not be a state funeral but it is a ceremonial funeral with full military honours paid for by the state and held at St Pauls. Some people are having trouble seeing the difference.

 

[spionfox]

It may not be a state funeral but it is a ceremonial funeral with full military honours paid for by the state and held at St Pauls. Some people are having trouble seeing the difference.

In that case I refer the honourable gentleman to my previous comment :icon_wink

 

[David Gwilliam]

This is doing the rounds on social media:

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Very good Biffa. One of the few good things about the present contoversy is that people are remembering Attlee although what a pity they did not bother to find out how to spell his name.

I do not think it is nostalgia that says that generally the Prime Ministers of both parties before 1979 were better than those since.

 

[Mawsley]

I do not think it is nostalgia that says that generally the Prime Ministers of both parties before 1979 were better than those since.

I'm sure everyone at Orgreave and Beanfields would wholeheartedly agree.

 

[spionfox]

One of the few good things about the present contoversy is that people are remembering Attlee although most of them weren't even born when he was around.

Good point David.

 

[Blue Maniac]

He was in prison when the deaths of innocent people happened. Was he responsible for things that happened when he was locked up?

I'd say he's responsible for the terrorist attacks he authorised, certainly.

 

[SJN-Fox]

Very good Biffa. One of the few good things about the present contoversy is that people are remembering Attlee although what a pity they did not bother to find out how to spell his name.

I do not think it is nostalgia that says that generally the Prime Ministers of both parties before 1979 were better than those since.

You were saying?

 

[Biffa Bacon]

I'd say he's responsible for the terrorist attacks he authorised, certainly.

One man's terrorist attack is another man's asymmetric warfare

 

[Macky]

I'd say he's responsible for the terrorist attacks he authorised, certainly.

The objection is the way in which she used the term 'terrorist' as a pejorative attack on a man who was a hero and a righteous freedom fighter.
Thankfully though I know that you are quite aware that the term 'terrorist' is entirely subjective and could equally be applied to Mrs T herself

 

[popillius]

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I was talking about the posts in which you were bad mannered toward Camberwell and used an obscenity. I also believe that language like "cancerous polyp on the anus of Britain" damages political discourse.

Had I been involved in serious political discourse with others who understood the subject at hand fully, as opposed to responding to one or two ridiculous comments on a football forum, perhaps I would have chosen my words with more sensitivity.

I suppose calling soneone an 'arsehole' doesn't merit your metaphorical 'slap on the wrist' for bad manners? It isn't bad manners to suggest that someone should carry out proper research before posting nonsense....or to respond to those comments in the manner they deserve.

If what I write offends you, ignore it. If you choose to comment upon it, at least make more justified arguments having assessed the whole thread of a conversation rather than picking up on a line or two and making the rest up as you go along.

Your insistence that Thatcher did good for this nation doesn't make you a bad person or a Thatcherist I agree, but hating her and everything she stood for and losing no sleep over the death of a wicked, parasitic octogenarian who brought a nation to its knees, doesn't make me a bad person either or a 'Loony Lefty'. Another fairly offensive term (to some) that you have failed to comment upon in the same way.

I've said before, your posts are more often than not, insightful, well crafted and entertaining. I enjoy them. But just because I choose to use terms that may be more colourful or ardent than the linguistic choices you make, doesn't make them any less valid. Shall we put all of this behind us now and hug? See, I'm a nice person (sometimes).

 

[Mawsley]

Had I been involved in serious political discourse with others who understood the subject at hand fully, as opposed to responding to one or two ridiculous comments on a football forum, perhaps I would have chosen my words with more sensitivity.

I suppose calling soneone an 'arsehole' doesn't merit your metaphorical 'slap on the wrist' for bad manners? It isn't bad manners to suggest that someone should carry out proper research before posting nonsense....or to respond to those comments in the manner they deserve.

If what I write offends you, ignore it. If you choose to comment upon it, at least make more justified arguments having assessed the whole thread of a conversation rather than picking up on a line or two and making the rest up as you go along.

Your insistence that Thatcher did good for this nation doesn't make you a bad person or a Thatcherist I agree, but hating her and everything she stood for and losing no sleep over the death of a wicked, parasitic octogenarian who brought a nation to its knees, doesn't make me a bad person either or a 'Loony Lefty'. Another fairly offensive term (to some) that you have failed to comment upon in the same way.

I've said before, your posts are more often than not, insightful, well crafted and entertaining. I enjoy them. But just because I choose to use terms that may be more colourful or ardent than the linguistic choices you make, doesn't make them any less valid. Shall we put all of this behind us now and hug? See, I'm a nice person (sometimes).

**** yeh.

 

[Macky]

Shall we put all of this behind us now and hug?

Yeah, come on Mr G, let's all have a big, manly hug together. You know you want to really and I promise that I'll keep my top on.

 

[MKFox]

Yeah, come on Mr G, let's all have a big, manly hug together. You know you want to really and I promise you some tromboning action.

oof, ya beast...

 

[RHYDAL]

We'll all laugh at this in 6 months.

 

[Macky]

We'll all laugh at this in 6 months.

I've not stopped all week