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Biffa Bacon said:
Second pick for a team, I don't remember which one, second pick overall would probably have been put back together and played. For Football he bulked up to 340lbs, within a year of his injury he was back at 240lbs and far healthier.
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Mind if I ask a name? Or College?
 
The crowd for last night's Michigan vs Notre Dame game was 115,109. Wow :icon_eek:

Not bad for a college game.
 
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pork pie fox said:
Are the Browns quitting on the season after only two games?

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9690728/cleveland-browns-trade-trent-richardson-indianapolis-colts

I'm not suggesting for one minute that Richardson is an elite RB, but it still seems like a strange move.
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Great decision I think. He's done nowt this season, and a first round pick could mean a shiny new QB. With seven picks in the first four rounds (I think), they can toughen up their secondary a bit as well.
 
Blue Maniac said:
Great decision I think. He's done nowt this season, and a first round pick could mean a shiny new QB. With seven picks in the first four rounds (I think), they can toughen up their secondary a bit as well.
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I can certainly see the logic in it, but they're likely to get a middle of the road first round pick in return and they're pretty much guaranteed a high first round pick of their own anyway. Bundling them up to trade up in the draft won't necessarily work as if they are behind anybody in the draft it's likely they will have serious QB needs themselves and won't want to trade the pick.

Having said all of that, I don't think it's a good deal for the Colts either. I'm not suggesting he's a Jamarcus Russell style bust, but he's not the best RB and ultimately went too high when he was drafted.

I guess I just think it sends out a bad sign when you dump your number 3 pick so soon after drafting him.
 
pork pie fox said:
I can certainly see the logic in it, but they're likely to get a middle of the road first round pick in return and they're pretty much guaranteed a high first round pick of their own anyway. Bundling them up to trade up in the draft won't necessarily work as if they are behind anybody in the draft it's likely they will have serious QB needs themselves and won't want to trade the pick.
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Chances are Cleveland will be pretty high up anyway. First pick if the last two weeks are any indicator - I'd imagine that's where they'll get their QB if they've got any sense. The additional pick will get them a high standard player in another position. They don't need to trade up, not really. More or less everything in the franchise needs improving.
pork pie fox said:
Having said all of that, I don't think it's a good deal for the Colts either. I'm not suggesting he's a Jamarcus Russell style bust, but he's not the best RB and ultimately went too high when he was drafted.
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Yeah. Decent RB, no more no less. Like I said, Browns have done well here.
pork pie fox said:
I guess I just think it sends out a bad sign when you dump your number 3 pick so soon after drafting him.
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They're showing intent to rebuild, and if any football team needs rebuilding, it's Cleveland.
 
Blue Maniac said:
Chances are Cleveland will be pretty high up anyway. First pick if the last two weeks are any indicator - I'd imagine that's where they'll get their QB if they've got any sense. The additional pick will get them a high standard player in another position. They don't need to trade up, not really. More or less everything in the franchise needs improving.

Yeah. Decent RB, no more no less. Like I said, Browns have done well here.

They're showing intent to rebuild, and if any football team needs rebuilding, it's Cleveland.
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How many years have they been rebuilding for now :icon_lol:
 
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Yeah, they've been pointless for way too long. 2014 draft will be important for them.
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That's kind of my point I suppose. They must have had 10 years of important drafts and not got a lot right yet.

Maybe they should just move to LA and start again totally!!
 
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pork pie fox said:
That's kind of my point I suppose. They must have had 10 years of important drafts and not got a lot right yet.

Maybe they should just move to LA and start again totally!!
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Someone should move to LA. There are a lot of cities that could do with a team, but LA not having one is just wrong.
 
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