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Today went much as I had expected. They were superior to us and got the result they deserved. I had the upmost respect for Ollie today. He is trying to get every ounce he can out of what he's got.

When will the inquest begin about the shambolic recruitment policy last summer? I think we can safely say it was the most incompetant piece of building up a squad in history. It makes Twatlors decisions in the transfer market seem smart. MM has to take the lions share of the blame for signing or sanctioning the addition of apparently random names.

Looking ahead to January, where are we? Who can we rely on to be good enough? My team of players who are up to task are as follows: Keeper = Fulop; Defenders = McAuley; Midfielders = None; Forwards = Campbell (and possibly John if he stays)

I think we're desperately poor in all departments. We have potential in places but none of the kids look ready for the battle to me. The likes of Mattock, Sheehan, Stearman, Wesolowski, Hayes, Sappleton, Odihambo, King, Chambers, Porter all have some potential. However, we need strong and experienced players right now. I think relying on any more than one or two of these in a team right now is asking too much. We're in a scrap and need more experience.

We are being failed despicably by fraudulent senior players like Kisnorbo, Clemence and Hume. We are also saddled with so many inferior players it is scary: Neilson, Henderson, Douglas, Kishishev, Cort, Newton, Fryatt, Kaebi, Maybury, De Vries, Hammond, N'Gotty, Chambers, Hellings, Kenton (despite his good performance today).

Out of 32 players here, only 3 or 4 seem good enough to me and 2 of those are only here on loan. Therein lies a tragic mess. I feel that Ollie is the right man to make something of this mess and he has the capability to get some of the inferior/frauds to improve. I also trust him to sign good players in January.

The best we can now hope for is mid table promise come May and a mighty big clearout. In essence, we are witnessing yet another year of waste.
 
Today went much as I had expected. They were superior to us and got the result they deserved. I had the upmost respect for Ollie today. He is trying to get every ounce he can out of what he's got.

When will the inquest begin about the shambolic recruitment policy last summer? I think we can safely say it was the most incompetant piece of building up a squad in history. It makes Twatlors decisions in the transfer market seem smart. MM has to take the lions share of the blame for signing or sanctioning the addition of apparently random names.

Looking ahead to January, where are we? Who can we rely on to be good enough? My team of players who are up to task are as follows: Keeper = Fulop; Defenders = McAuley; Midfielders = None; Forwards = Campbell (and possibly John if he stays)

I think we're desperately poor in all departments. We have potential in places but none of the kids look ready for the battle to me. The likes of Mattock, Sheehan, Stearman, Wesolowski, Hayes, Sappleton, Odihambo, King, Chambers, Porter all have some potential. However, we need strong and experienced players right now. I think relying on any more than one or two of these in a team right now is asking too much. We're in a scrap and need more experience.

We are being failed despicably by fraudulent senior players like Kisnorbo, Clemence and Hume. We are also saddled with so many inferior players it is scary: Neilson, Henderson, Douglas, Kishishev, Cort, Newton, Fryatt, Kaebi, Maybury, De Vries, Hammond, N'Gotty, Chambers, Hellings, Kenton (despite his good performance today).

Out of 32 players here, only 3 or 4 seem good enough to me and 2 of those are only here on loan. Therein lies a tragic mess. I feel that Ollie is the right man to make something of this mess and he has the capability to get some of the inferior/frauds to improve. I also trust him to sign good players in January.

The best we can now hope for is mid table promise come May and a mighty big clearout. In essence, we are witnessing yet another year of waste.

I'd say back to square one. But it could get even worse yet.
 
You have to hope that any quality players that we try to sign can look at the bigger picture. Survive this season and have a better go next time around. From that perspective its 18 months minimum before there can be any success. Even then there are no guarantees.

You are right BB - but I just don't think that there are many good players around who would take that longer term judgement.

I think Holloway needs to tell those lads that it is going to be down to them. Milan hasn't helped by setting ludicrous targets re. promotion this season. We need to realise where we are and why we are there.

Sadly, I think we fans need to also accept this - know that the squad is crap - but make the best of it and give all the support we can to try and ensure that a very bad situation doesn't become a catastrophe.

Then - hopefully another new start for next season.
 
The thing is, we're starting all over again and again and again.....

We need stability more than anything else IMO. We have to get behind Ollie and urge the team forward by protecting our best investments - the youth coming through.

A few good men in January should be enough to stay up IMO, but that's where we are.
 
Great post BN, although I actually rate Fryatt.

I supported Fryatt for a long time Alex. But enough is enough with him too. Although he may be one that Ollie can work on. He tries hard, but his finishing is not good enough and he is so short of pace.

Fryatt's record this season: 3 goals in 16 appearances
Last season: 4 goals in 34 appearances

It's just not good enough. Over the same run of games, I'd expect Campbell to score two to three times as many.
 
You are right BB - but I just don't think that there are many good players around who would take that longer term judgement.

I think Holloway needs to tell those lads that it is going to be down to them. Milan hasn't helped by setting ludicrous targets re. promotion this season. We need to realise where we are and why we are there.

Sadly, I think we fans need to also accept this - know that the squad is crap - but make the best of it and give all the support we can to try and ensure that a very bad situation doesn't become a catastrophe.

Then - hopefully another new start for next season.

I totally agree with that. Sadly judging by reactions on here people want to crucify the club for its mistakes rather than take it on the chin. Yes its been bollox for 4 years, but the club isnt going away, and there is no one else that you can turn too. Its a sorry situation, the fans are frustrated and they dont want to hear excuses anymore. I cant blame them for that but the club is in a mess, and if anyone thinks that their vitriolic contribution is going to help they are wrong imo. We are shite, we are in a relegation battle,and we will go down if things dont improve. Imo now more than ever i'd like to see the fans accept the dire situation and back the the manager and team, and even if the team really dont deserve it lets just give them enough encouragement to keep us in this division, and then lets start again next season
 
Great post BN, although I actually rate Fryatt.

Since his suspension, we've looked woefully short upfront. It's almost going back a season and half what Holloway has got to do. Kelly had to strip away the shitter from the shit to get a 'squad', Levein had to get rid of the old guard. We are constantly rebuilding - it's gonna take a very long time....
 
Since his suspension, we've looked woefully short upfront. It's almost going back a season and half what Holloway has got to do. Kelly had to strip away the shitter from the shit to get a 'squad', Levein had to get rid of the old guard. We are constantly rebuilding - it's gonna take a very long time....

Ollie's purchases are now crucial. For him to have Fryatt, DJ and CJ all back though it will be a very different threat up front IMO.
 
We're crying out for a targetman who can head the ball, a creative midfield influence and a potent winger.


no, we are crying out for a complete new team, except the goalie of course.
 
I've read some drivel on this board but, I think that this thread contains more than most.
Neither Megson or Ollie can make a team out of this collection of players. A small number (four at most) astute signings in the January window and, I genuinely think that this team will be unrecognisable.
The reason that I am delighted that Megson deserted the club, but am willing to give Holloway a chance is because Holloway is trying to build the players. He looks for the good and works to increase that whilst Megson from day one bemoaned the players and, instead of putting out a balanced team, played seven or eight defenders and milked applause for the division's tightest defence!
I have read the match thread and so far up to post 81 on this thread and the first :038::038::038:that I give is to Diken as he has posted the most sensible and accurate post so far. Before anyone starts on me I am no BM, just give me time to finish reading the rest of the posts on this thread.
 
Sorry but that's bollox, Megson left for more money and a chance in the prem, I don't blame him but lets not make him a victim here.

I was prepared to give Megson a chance & I'll give Ollie a chance too. All the blame for this is in the hands of MM who signed shit players and a shit manager too(Allen).
:018: Bollox.
 
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