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Thank Alex, very much appreciated, remind me to let you have an opinion one day.

Anyone can have an opinion. Mine was/is that your argument (which countered my point) was pathetic.
 
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OK then I'm with you Alex. Well done RK, brilliant manager.

It's just such a shame that the only half decent run of form he has had coincides with a new owner and all of the players trying to impress the new gaffer and will get the prix saying that it's all MM's doing and not Rob Kelly's. It also coincides with a whole new positive atmosphere around the club.

Bad timing from Kelly really

Rob Kelly could have done this anytime over the course of this season but chose to do it now, so leave him alone and give him the credit he deserves.

Agree Melts in total. HOWEVER I thought that no matter what, he deserves a pat on the back for the way he and the team have conducted themselves over the last handfull of games.
 
Agree Melts in total. HOWEVER I thought that no matter what, he deserves a pat on the back for the way he and the team have conducted themselves over the last handfull of games.

So if we lose tomorrow are you going to call him a useless twat ?
 
So if we lose tomorrow are you going to call him a useless twat ?

No.

What I think: I think I would have liked Davies/Newell when we had the chance. However Newell looks a bit tired now and his outbursts would have got on my nerves. I didn't want RK for any more than the term he served last season. I always thought it was a cheap option by our board at the time.
I don't think his tenure here is going to be a long one and I certainly do not envisage RK turning in to a MON overnight. I have seen the foxes play a fair few times with him in charge and looked pathetic and lazy and nothing makes me more frustrated than that.

BUT: I think 'fair do's' with the takeover all going off and everyone speculating that Dowie was coming in and so on and so on, RK just quietly got on with it and delivered a side which has consistently picked up points, culminating in an excellent display last week.

SO: I say, nice one Rob. Well done son. NO I don't think he's the answer, I may be wrong, but I don't. But at the moment I think he's done ok of late.
 
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Agree Melts in total. HOWEVER I thought that no matter what, he deserves a pat on the back for the way he and the team have conducted themselves over the last handfull of games.
Where I do agree with you Alex, is that we blame RK for our defeats, so we must credit him for our victories, I appreciate that.

But I can see through the smokescreen
 
Where I do agree with you Alex, is that we blame RK for our defeats, so we must credit him for our victories, I appreciate that.

But I can see through the smokescreen

I find it interesting that no one gives him any credit for our position at the moment, and base it on MM coming in, not the additions of Horsefield and Yeates and the return of Johnson - all of which are RK's signings.

Surely his wheeling and dealing over Jan with Williams going and the Horse and Yeates coming in has had an effect?

Also people who were clambering for Newell/Dowie/Cotterill and Laws seem to forget that (Dowie aside as he's not had time) have teams lower than us and on worse runs and with more money than RK has had.

I agree he's not the greatest manager in the world but he's only been a manager for just over a year, and by the same token he's better than most people on this forum are willing to giving him credit for.
 
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I find it interesting that no one gives him any credit for our position at the moment, and base it on MM coming in, not the additions of Horsefield and Yeates and the return of Johnson - all of which are RK's signings.

Surely his wheeling and dealing over Jan with Williams going and the Horse and Yeates coming in has had an effect?

Also people who were clambering for Newell/Dowie/Cotterill and Laws seem to forget that (Dowie aside as he's not had time) have teams lower than us and on worse runs and with more money than RK has had.

I agree he's not the greatest manager in the world but he's only been a manager for just over a year, and by the same token he's better than most people on this forum are willing to giving him credit for.

I Agree he has been ripped apart on here if we lose and he is a hero when we win, i know this is football but RK deserves alot of credit, he has saved us from league 1 football twice now, he has brought in some decent players who are finally playing as a team and all the other managers we have been linked with are all fighting for a championship spot for next season,

The fact that RK has had no money since summer and he has to wheel and deal and he had to sell players agaist his will, he has also made the right choice is cutting loans short as well and getting rid of players who aren't good enough for the club, Low,sylla, OG, welsh, smith (last season).

With Low he brought him and he knew after that he wasn't good enough for the club he didnt have the sources to find another wingers so he had to sell him before he could replace him, Levi has shown great charactor with the height he is and the pace he has he is not scared to fight, he can be lazy at times but with the horse around screaming he will become a better player instanly,

I think RK has done very well his he took over he has had bad patches but every manager does, if he had the funds when he needed them we could have been sitting in a even better position.,
 
No.

BUT: I think 'fair do's' with the takeover all going off and everyone speculating that Dowie was coming in and so on and so on, RK just quietly got on with it and delivered a side which has consistently picked up points, culminating in an excellent display last week.

SO: I say, nice one Rob. Well done son. NO I don't think he's the answer, I may be wrong, but I don't. But at the moment I think he's done ok of late.

Well put. We can only begin to imagine the pressures during the drawn-out take-over process, with the club in paralysis and no money. Plenty of managers would have been throwing their toys out of their prams. He may not have been what everybody wanted, and not necessarily the one for the future, but he was where he was (to coin a phrase :icon_bigg ) and got on with the job.
 
When i mean twice, i mean this season as well, cause we did look like we were heading that way when we played Fulham in the FA CUP replay.

So he's 'saved' us from a situation he created himself :102:

This thread gets more bizarre by the minute
 
When i mean twice, i mean this season as well, cause we did look like we were heading that way when we played Fulham in the FA CUP replay.
I have given our previous board a lot of stick, but they have done 3 things to save this club:

a) Save it from death
b) Sack Craig Levein
c) Hand over the reigns to MM

Rob Kelly takes no credit for any of this. Peter Taylor would have kept us up last year, indeed we could have played without a manager last year. The removal of Levein saved us, not the inclusion of Kelly
 
Well put. We can only begin to imagine the pressures during the drawn-out take-over process, with the club in paralysis and no money. Plenty of managers would have been throwing their toys out of their prams. He may not have been what everybody wanted, and not necessarily the one for the future, but he was where he was (to coin a phrase :icon_bigg ) and got on with the job.

With you, OG. It really frightens me to think we could have ended up with Newell, who is totally gaga and having a very public nervous breakdown it seems to me.
 
I have given our previous board a lot of stick, but they have done 3 things to save this club:

a) Save it from death
b) Sack Craig Levein
c) Hand over the reigns to MM

Rob Kelly takes no credit for any of this. Peter Taylor would have kept us up last year, indeed we could have played without a manager last year. The removal of Levein saved us, not the inclusion of Kelly

It always makes me smile when opinions are presented as fact. :icon_wink

Who knows what PT would have done, its irrelevant, a point interesting to me is that the other managers touted by people over the past 6-12 months are not doing any better at their respective clubs with more money and funding than RK has had, and in fact are doing worse.

Therefore, one can argue that RK is still a better shout than Dowie, Newell, Laws, Cotterill and numerous others who were bandied about as realistic targets.
 
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I don't dislike RK and I think he's done a OK job but its as good a job as he is going to do and if we keep him as Manager then I think we are limiting how far we can go.At this moment he has not got the attributes to be a Promotion winning Manager,he may well have them one day but we can't wait that long.He does get some unnecessaray criticism but please stop coming out with the ''He's had no money line'':icon_roll
 
It always makes me smile when opinions are presented as fact. :icon_wink

Who knows what PT would have done, its irrelevant, a point interesting to me is that the other managers touted by people over the past 6-12 months are not doing any better at their respective clubs with more money and funding than RK has had, and in fact are doing worse.

Therefore, one can argue that RK is still a better shout than Dowie, Newell, Laws, Cotterill and numerous others who were bandied about as realistic targets.

Bit harsh on Dowie he's only had a couple of matches
 
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