Fa Cup Winners, Or Promotion?

[bocadillo]

You sometimes struggle when people use tenses don't you Boc :icon_lol:

'had never' does not exclude 'have never'.

 

[spionfox]

'had never' does not exclude 'have never'.

You're very good with explanations that turn things around aren't you Boc :icon_lol::icon_lol:

 

[bocadillo]

You're very good with explanations that turn things around aren't you Boc :icon_lol::icon_lol:

I does my best.

 

[markyp224]

Why would you care about that? It's only ever said by plastic fans who have nothing to hang on to other than their adopted club's glory.

It would be said by all United, Liverpool, Arsenal fans and so on. And they'd be right to a point. It doesn't take as much work to win that cup these days as it did a decade ago and before

 

[Profondo Rosso]

FA Cup.

It still pisses me off when listening to my old Python records when they do a quiz with the question about what year did Coventry City win the FA Cup and the answer was it was a trick question as CC had never won the FA Cup.

Actually, I forgot about this. Winning the FA Cup would sure mean those Cov fans who always bleat on about 87 would have nothing to laud over us anymore.

 

[beaumontfox]

FA Cup.

Just cos I want to go to a FA Cup final.(And not as a neutral, can do that after we've been there please!)

 

[bocadillo]

FA Cup.

Just cos I want to go to a FA Cup final.(And not as a neutral, can do that after we've been there please!)

I do hope that you would never go to an FA Cup final as a neutral. Everybody who does is preventing one of the competing team's own fans from being there - and there's already far too few tickets for the people who really should be there.

 

[Blue Maniac]

I do hope that you would never go to an FA Cup final as a neutral. Everybody who does is preventing one of the competing team's own fans from being there - and there's already far too few tickets for the people who really should be there.

My thoughts exactly

 

[beaumontfox]

Not if it's corporate it isn't.

The company that owns the place Ben's dad works at has a box at Wembley, and they offer two employees tickets for the Final. Ben and his dad went to the Pompey-Cardiff one, they weren't allowed to wear colours(not that they would've done anyhoo) and had to be there at 12pm for all the boring corporate stuff they had to sit through.

I certainly wouldn't attempt to get a ticket in the normal seats if it weren't my team there.


They also have first dibs on their box for concerts etc before they are offered out(as it's not football related) was tempted to get my TT tickets two days before they went on public sale with them as I was told I could have two..til I found out they were £150 each.......pffft! My thoughts were 'that's enough money for three concerts'.....

 

[Blue Maniac]

Not if it's corporate it isn't.

The company that owns the place Ben's dad works at has a box at Wembley, and they offer two employees tickets for the Final. Ben and his dad went to the Pompey-Cardiff one, they weren't allowed to wear colours(not that they would've done anyhoo) and had to be there at 12pm for all the boring corporate stuff they had to sit through.

I certainly wouldn't attempt to get a ticket in the normal seats if it weren't my team there.

The corporate seats being given away to people who have contributed precisely nothing to the game and have no connection with the finalists is exactly the problem, especially while hard-working fans of the competing clubs often have to either pay over the odds or miss out on perhaps the biggest game their club plays in their lifetime.

Edit: Just re-read your post and realised that I've answered something other than what you said. Still, my point stands.

 

[beaumontfox]

I know that. But the prices for those tickets are normally waaaaay out of the average fans price range anyhoo(which is a different subject matter)

As much as we might not like how much priority corporate get before the real fans, they are a big part of football sponsorship etc nowadays, and tbh if Ben was offered the tickets again I'm quite sure he not going to turn round and say, 'actually I'd rather a Man Utd/Liverpool/Chelsea had them instead of me' not when the whole day is about £250 per person anyhoo.

 

[Blue Maniac]

I know that. But the prices for those tickets are normally waaaaay out of the average fans price range anyhoo(which is a different subject matter)

As much as we might not like how much priority corporate get before the real fans, they are a big part of football sponsorship etc nowadays, and tbh if Ben was offered the tickets again I'm quite sure he not going to turn round and say, 'actually I'd rather a Man Utd/Liverpool/Chelsea had them instead of me' not when the whole day is about £250 per person anyhoo.

Well I know what I'd do if I found myself in possession of two tickets when I knew actual fans of the two clubs were missing out.

 

[beaumontfox]

It depends if you know those fans doesn't it?

I mean I know plenty of fans of the big four, but hardly any of them go to see them play live. I don't think I'd want to let them have the tickets instead of a fan who missed out in a ballot.

Saying that, I think Ben had to 'sign in' when they got to Wembley and show ID that they worked in some way for the company who had the box, which would mean giving those tickets to real fans would probably not be allowed to happen anyhoo.

 

[Blue Maniac]

It depends if you know those fans doesn't it?

I mean I know plenty of fans of the big four, but hardly any of them go to see them play live. I don't think I'd want to let them have the tickets instead of a fan who missed out in a ballot.

Saying that, I think Ben had to 'sign in' when they got to Wembley and show ID that they worked in some way for the company who had the box, which would mean giving those tickets to real fans would probably not be allowed to happen anyhoo.

:icon_lol: We all know there's a difference between those 'fans' and real ones.

 

[bocadillo]

Not if it's corporate it isn't.

'Corporate' doesn't keep tickets from reaching the competing teams' own fans? That's a very interesting point-of-view!

 

[beaumontfox]

I did say a bit more further down Boc!:icon_razz


I agree there is too much given to corporate at football games, but when you look at how much clubs charge for those seats it's more than most fans could afford even once a season, let alone paying those prices regularly.

The box Ben was in had 20 people in it, over half actually supported one team or the other. The others were ones who were from departments whose turn it was for the tickets. Strangely there weren't no Pompey or Cardiff fans where Ben's dad works, and most of them were egg chasing fans anyhoo. At least Ben and his dad are football fans. I mean would you rather egg chasers had FA Cup final tickets instead of football fans??


Anyhoo, they had to have ID with them as I said before, so they wouldn't have been able to give the tickets to someone else anyway.

 

[bocadillo]

I did say a bit more further down Boc!:icon_razz

I saw that you said more further down. I read it and I read the more that you put in the post to which I am now replying. You miss my point about 'corporate' completely. 'Corporate' stops the people who should be at cup finals getting tickets - that's the beginning and the end of it.

 

[Boy Genius]

I do hope that you would never go to an FA Cup final as a neutral. Everybody who does is preventing one of the competing team's own fans from being there - and there's already far too few tickets for the people who really should be there.

Feck that Boc...... I look after Number 1. I wouldn't give a flying **** if I had prevented a fan of a competing team getting a ticket.

 

[bocadillo]

Feck that Boc...... I look after Number 1. I wouldn't give a flying **** if I had prevented a fan of a competing team getting a ticket.

One day you will write something that surprises us.

Perhaps.
:icon_wink

 

[beaumontfox]

Yes it does.

I'm not disagreeing with that.
But like I said, whether we like it or not, it's a major player in todays sporting events. It's not right that the FA Cup finalists only get 25,000 tickets each(or 30,000 if they are one of the big clubs) and then coporate get all the rest, to me, the corporate section should be the tier where they have the boxes and that should be it, I don't see why they should get tickets in other areas of the ground.

Then again, maybe I'm not as noble as you are when it comes to big match tickets like that, if I worked for a company who had a box and they offered up two tickets every year to the department I worked, I'd be quite happy to have a ticket when my chance arose but its not going to happen to me anyhoo, and the only chance I'll get of going is if Leicester get there.