Holloway out

[dpjfox]

Ithink MM will do as last season get a new manager with 6 games to go (ie got to win against WBA or Hull or your out Ollie)

 

[Boy Genius]

I believe that appointing a football manger is a little different to other industries. Mostly because of the incestious aspect of it (i.e. everyone knows everyone in the game.) "A good luck at his CV is also an option" is quite a strange statement - most managers are appointed on this alone.

"All MM was to take him on." - Isn't that enough?

Rob Kelly?
I also see you put the word "luck" in there instead of look, as any appointment needs luck, or is it your spelling?

And no the appointment of managers in football will be no different. Don't perform and you are out. You just like to think it's different.
LCFC is no different from any other club, only in the fact that our chairman will not hesitate to get rid. I would rather see MM get rid of dead wood now and go down, rather than go down with what we have and bury our heads in the sand hoping things turn around. We are fcuked which ever way you look at it.

 

[highland fox]

what happens when the one after holloway cant produce miracles in 10-20 games??

But he's taking us down,we cannot afford to be relegated,surely you can see that Holloway is in some way responsible for the situation we find ourselves in,its likehe's fireproof in some peoples eyes:icon_conf

 

[Naughty Fox]

This just speculation and not from what I would say a solid source (but he has got things right in the past!) The riot act has already been given in a meeting after the PNE game, MM was fuming.
With what has been said on the Bentley site maybe there is more substance to this story.

Personally I could not give a sh*t anymore, I think we are already down. I just want all the shower of sh*t at the club to prove me wrong, with or without IH.

 

[The Old Fox]

Holloway should be given the remainder of this season AND next. At the end of next season, his performance should be reviewed and, IF we need to change manager, a new man appointed during the close season.

We hear many times that there is no loyalty to Leicester amongst the players and management. This is true. If the club want loyalty, they have to give it. Rightly, or wrongly, Milan chose Holloway as manager. He must be given the time to do the job. Another change now might paper over the cracks, although, I doubt it this time, but if we want long term success, we have to pick a manager and stick with him.

 

[TommyK]

Rob Kelly?
I also see you put the word "luck" in there instead of look, as any appointment needs luck, or is it your spelling?

And no the appointment of managers in football will be no different. Don't perform and you are out. You just like to think it's different.
LCFC is no different from any other club, only in the fact that our chairman will not hesitate to get rid. I would rather see MM get rid of dead wood now and go down, rather than go down with what we have and bury our heads in the sand hoping things turn around. We are fcuked which ever way you look at it.

Yeah it was a typo. Meant look.

I'm not arguing that if you don't preform you will not be sacked. If you re-read my post yu'll see i'm arguing that the appointment of football managers is not based on a good interview as you seem to suggest but on pass performances at other clubs. Please don't tell me what I think.

I think we can both agree that we're fecked though.

 

[Yorkshire Vixen]

But he's taking us down,we cannot afford to be relegated,surely you can see that Holloway is in some way responsible for the situation we find ourselves in,its likehe's fireproof in some peoples eyes:icon_conf

 

[highland fox]

Why do you need evidence, what do you think this is, CSI Miami?

I actually feel Holloway is the first manager we have had who has actually tried to put things right. He has brought in some very good players. The likes of Hendrie, Oakley, Howard etc are in my opinion very good players at this level.

I appreciate that results have not gone our way, but he is doing his very best to try and get the team playing football in my opinion.
What I would like to know for all those people who are now saying "I told you so" or calling for Holloways head who they want to see replace him?

I'd imagine at the moment a very big percentage of our fans don't give a bollox about us playing good football,we need points and we need them fast.Nice pretty passing football can wait til we are safe.When do all the Holloway admirers turn round and admit he's not up to it.What does it take ? I'm genuinely interested to hear at what point the people who want him to stay,which is fair enough we are allowed our opinion,will say enough is enough he's got to go

 

[highland fox]

But he's taking us down,we cannot afford to be relegated,surely you can see that Holloway is in some way responsible for the situation we find ourselves in,its likehe's fireproof in some peoples eyes:icon_conf

By the way I only highlighted your post durham because I know you might give me a sensible answer,I'm genuinely interested in what yopu think:icon_wink

 

[homer]

Why do you need evidence, what do you think this is, CSI Miami?

I actually feel Holloway is the first manager we have had who has actually tried to put things right. He has brought in some very good players. The likes of Hendrie, Oakley, Howard etc are in my opinion very good players at this level.

I appreciate that results have not gone our way, but he is doing his very best to try and get the team playing football in my opinion.

What I would like to know for all those people who are now saying "I told you so" or calling for Holloways head who they want to see replace him?

Davies or Dowie

Anyone to be honest

The man is a twat - the bizarre thing is that the Blue Mongies just can't see it

It's beyond comprehension

 

[Polar Bear]

Highland - as I posted above, do you think a change of manager would get our strikers scoring? Cos I don't.

 

[homer]

Highland - as I posted above, do you think a change of manager would get our strikers scoring? Cos I don't.

Well Billy Davies got Steve Howard scoring in this league last year

 

[Yorkshire Vixen]

i get the impression from some people that theyd rather we got relegated into the 3rd tier of football for the 1st time ever than sack a manager who simply isnt doing his job and not bringing someone else in in the hope of possibly giving the club a lift and possibly out of the crap we are in

 

[Yorkshire Vixen]

Highland - as I posted above, do you think a change of manager would get our strikers scoring? Cos I don't.

you USUALLY find that a new manager coming in gives the players/fans/club a boost so in effect id say it was more likely they would in answer to your question

 

[homer]

i get the impression from some people that theyd rather we got relegated into the 3rd tier of football for the 1st time ever than sack a manager who simply isnt doing his job and not bringing someone else in in the hope of possibly giving the club a lift and possibly out of the crap we are in

No no - it's stability we need.

Stop being so fickle :icon_roll

 

[highland fox]

Highland - as I posted above, do you think a change of manager would get our strikers scoring? Cos I don't.

But we are going to be relegated PB,something has to be done,we can't just sit here saying ''Holloway will get it right'' has we sink into Division 1.I don't know what can be done but something has to be,if it stays the same we will be relegated

 

[Boy Genius]

I would say its well over 50% of the fans who want to see him gone now

 

[Polar Bear]

you USUALLY find that a new manager coming in gives the players/fans/club a boost so in effect id say it was more likely they would in answer to your question

I assume the USUALLY is there to prevent me citing Kevin Keegan in response :icon_wink

Earlier in the thread some posters put forward what I consider reasoned arguments as to why, in this instance, changing the manager won't do that. Based on the last two performances I have actually seen - Cardiff and Brizzl - I agree with them. The big problem is that we're not scoring goals, probably because our strikers are not good enough, and I don't see how a new manager changes that. It doesn't look like a situation where the players have given up and someone new comes in and gives them a lift.

Homer says that Davies got Howard scoring - well I don't know much about that Derby team, but I imagine he had at least a pre-season to get a team playing to Howard as a focal point.

I don't rate Holloway at all, but I don't think changing him will have the desired effect. I think we're fecked whatever. Sacking him will just add to our debt and destroy remaining morale IMO. I do think it will happen anyway, so we'll all get to see who's right!

 

[The Old Fox]

i get the impression from some people that theyd rather we got relegated into the 3rd tier of football for the 1st time ever than sack a manager who simply isnt doing his job and not bringing someone else in in the hope of possibly giving the club a lift and possibly out of the crap we are in

I think that the point is, we have tried changing managers and it hasn't achieved success. We have a reputation now that, lose half a dozen games and you're out.
I don't want to get into an argument as to who is the best manager, but why would a quality manager want to come to Leicester? Win from day one, or you're sacked. Holloway was given the job, he should be given time: if not, nor will the next man, or the next... and so we will continue to spiral.

 

[highland fox]

I think that the point is, we have tried changing managers and it hasn't achieved success. We have a reputation now that, lose half a dozen games and you're out.
I don't want to get into an argument as to who is the best manager, but why would a quality manager want to come to Leicester? Win from day one, or you're sacked. Holloway was given the job, he should be given time: if not, nor will the next man, or the next... and so we will continue to spiral.

So he keeps his job no matter how many leagues he takes us down ?