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I think that the point is, we have tried changing managers and it hasn't achieved success. We have a reputation now that, lose half a dozen games and you're out.
I don't want to get into an argument as to who is the best manager, but why would a quality manager want to come to Leicester? Win from day one, or you're sacked. Holloway was given the job, he should be given time: if not, nor will the next man, or the next... and so we will continue to spiral.

thats a good question and i doubt very much a manager currently in work would leave his job to come here (unless theyre a lower league boss) so that would leave managers out of work at the minute, i dont think mandaric has helped matters when he said about 'if it takes 20 managers to find the right one so be it' he has made a rod for his own back imo and i would put a small amount of 'blame' at his doorstep he does afterall appoint the managers who HE thinks will do a job
 
you USUALLY find that a new manager coming in gives the players/fans/club a boost so in effect id say it was more likely they would in answer to your question

Hi YV,

In most circumstances i would agree, but this would be our 4th change, could we still expect a small lift?

We need more than a small lift, we need 10 points from 8 games, and i don't know how the feck we're going to get them, no matter what we do!!!

For the first time i can remember in my life in supporting LCFC in the second tier of football (and that includes the Tony James great escape), i think we will go down no matter what.

The manager and players need shooting, they are inept, and in any other sphere of work they would be sacked.
 
you USUALLY find that a new manager coming in gives the players/fans/club a boost so in effect id say it was more likely they would in answer to your question

What is the experience of the Newcastle United fans in this respect? I have several times seen our club and its supporters referred to as "the Newcastle of the Chamionship".
 
Stability, we must have stability. Ok lets have stability, who knows the younger players inside out, who has been at the club for years ? John Rudkin. I'm now resigned to the fact that we will be relegated, therefore we have to look to the future. We need to out most of the senior players and bring through the younger players, especially if we are going to be in Div 1. IMO, now would be the perfect time to have John Rudkin in charge of the first team. He would have the summer to get rid of those he doesn't need, get the younger players back from their loans and bring those younger players through to the first team.
 
Can't see this happening in England, but....

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thats a good question and i doubt very much a manager currently in work would leave his job to come here (unless theyre a lower league boss) so that would leave managers out of work at the minute, i dont think mandaric has helped matters when he said about 'if it takes 20 managers to find the right one so be it' he has made a rod for his own back imo and i would put a small amount of 'blame' at his doorstep he does afterall appoint the managers who HE thinks will do a job

If I were an out of work manager who had any faith in my own ability, I would side-step this appointment. Apart from Megson, who walked, look at how the Leicester job has affected our recent managers. Levein, back to Scotland (not decrying Scottish football, but he had said that he was keen to break in to English football), Kelly dropped to assistant, Allen out of work. Leicester City does not look good on your CV.
 
If I were an out of work manager who had any faith in my own ability, I would side-step this appointment. Apart from Megson, who walked, look at how the Leicester job has affected our recent managers. Levein, back to Scotland (not decrying Scottish football, but he had said that he was keen to break in to English football), Kelly dropped to assistant, Allen out of work. Leicester City does not look good on your CV.


All too true - and to that you can add Adams who recently resigned as an assistant manager somewhere nondescript.

And yet we all know that this is potentially a decent enough club. I genuinely feel sorry for Milan but an added dimension is that people don't seem that keen to manage for him.
 
which is what?? that we're compared to newcastle united???

That there is no evidence that a new manager will give the team any kind of lift - even if you think otherwise.

And if you're not bothered that we are compared with Newcastle, I certainly am. They are a laughing-stock and so are we. The continual mismanagement of both clubs (and I am not talking about mismanagement at the first-team coach/manager level) makes it impossible to imagine any great improvement in their fortunes in the near future. And at both clubs, pressure from fans is a major incitement in this mismanagement. The two clubs have a lot in common and a lack of interest in Newcastle United's problems suggests an unwillingness to properly consider and understand those of Leicester City.
 
Stability, we must have stability. Ok lets have stability, who knows the younger players inside out, who has been at the club for years ? John Rudkin. I'm now resigned to the fact that we will be relegated, therefore we have to look to the future. We need to out most of the senior players and bring through the younger players, especially if we are going to be in Div 1. IMO, now would be the perfect time to have John Rudkin in charge of the first team. He would have the summer to get rid of those he doesn't need, get the younger players back from their loans and bring those younger players through to the first team.

This is ridiculous. Despite the fact that I'm more miserable and angry about football than I have ever been, we've clearly still got a decent chance of staying up.

That said, I agree with the Rudkin suggestion. IF Ollie goes (and I think I'm still hopeful he won't just yet, not because I love him, but because I think changing now would be suicide), I think JR would be a very welcome appointment. I'm sure there will be complaints about his inexperience which are fair enough, but with the possible exception of Billy Davies, I certainly think he's the best option.
 
That there is no evidence that a new manager will give the team any kind of lift - even if you think otherwise.

And if you're not bothered that we are compared with Newcastle, I certainly am. They are a laughing-stock and so are we. The continual mismanagement of both clubs (and I am not talking about mismanagement at the first-team coach/manager level) makes it impossible to imagine any great improvement in their fortunes in the near future. And at both clubs, pressure from fans is a major incitement in this mismanagement. The two clubs have a lot in common and a lack of interest in Newcastle United's problems suggests an unwillingness to properly consider and understand those of Leicester City.


i didnt say it WILL give a lift but USUALLY does, we won in ih's 1st game coventry won in CC's 1st game etc etc etc, if we were to win just that 1 game it MIGHT give them a lift
 
i didnt say it WILL give a lift but USUALLY does, we won in ih's 1st game coventry won in CC's 1st game etc etc etc, if we were to win just that 1 game it MIGHT give them a lift

I read in the Racing Post once that a new Manager usually brings a short term improvement in results.Its not guaranteed and obviously there are cases where this hasn't happenend like Keegan
 
This is ridiculous. Despite the fact that I'm more miserable and angry about football than I have ever been, we've clearly still got a decent chance of staying up.

Looking at the table, at the moment we are only one point adrift, but if (I know it's big ''if'') Coventry and Sheffield Wednesday win their games in hand, then we are four points adrift, we are getting to the realms of ''it's still mathematically possible'', then we are relegated. We are in the situation of relying on other results to help us and that does not bare well.
 
I read in the Racing Post once that a new Manager usually brings a short term improvement in results.Its not guaranteed and obviously there are cases where this hasn't happenend like Keegan

that was what i was getting at hence my USUALLY comment
 
Another problem is if holloway cant get the likes of oakley,howard,clemmence,Hendrie and campbell (which are all proven players) playing well whats he going to do with the shower of shit we will attract when we are in league 1, how far do we have to fall before we make a move. I am not saying i agree with sacking manangers all the time i just dont think this one should of ever have been appointed,even if he does keep us up how far do you really think he can take us!!
 
Looking at the table, at the moment we are only one point adrift, but if (I know it's big ''if'') Coventry and Sheffield Wednesday win their games in hand, then we are four points adrift, we are getting to the realms of ''it's still mathematically possible'', then we are relegated. We are in the situation of relying on other results to help us and that does not bare well.

I think the game in hand is between the two of them :102:
 
That there is no evidence that a new manager will give the team any kind of lift - even if you think otherwise.

And if you're not bothered that we are compared with Newcastle, I certainly am. They are a laughing-stock and so are we. The continual mismanagement of both clubs (and I am not talking about mismanagement at the first-team coach/manager level) makes it impossible to imagine any great improvement in their fortunes in the near future. And at both clubs, pressure from fans is a major incitement in this mismanagement. The two clubs have a lot in common and a lack of interest in Newcastle United's problems suggests an unwillingness to properly consider and understand those of Leicester City.

I think there is evidence that a short term lift generally occurs and given that we are only looking at 8 remaining games then short term sounds fine to me.

I would prefer Billy Davies - longer term - but if he doesn't want the job then give it to someone with a bit of enthusiasm on a short term basis.

As for being a laughing stock - that is not the issue. Points or lack of are the issue. With respect, i think the big mistake that people who hold your views make is that it is implicit from what you are saying that because we have got rid of a succession of poor managers that we are unable to get rid of this one. All i would say is that the need is not to retain a poor manager but to try to find a decent one. I keep saying that Holloway is a dud in this job - but it's not a question of repetition but a matter of fact. Just consider the players he has at his disposal including his own expensive acquisitions and explain why the results just get worse.
 
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