Speculation Konchesky to QPR

[LeeCovFox]

Another indication of how daft FFP is, so a owner removing large amounts of debt above 5million from the club is forbidden.

Not really. The whole point is that clubs run themselves sustainably by paying out less than they get in. The way to do this is to pay less in wages. Owners pumping millions in is not sustainable and does nothing to promote sensible spending. FFP isn't perfect but it's a damned sight better than anything previously in place to protect clubs like ours ending up like Pompey or Coventry off the back of crap ownership.

 

[spionfox]

Is this happening? I barely pay attention over the summer so have probably missed something.

"Officially" nothing is decided yet and I have been told not to worry about the rumours.

Unofficially I think it is a done deal.


Bastards.

 

[LeeCovFox]

"Officially" nothing is decided yet and I have been told not to worry about the rumours.

Unofficially I think it is a done deal.

Bastards.

What are they planning then? Moving away fans?

 

[spionfox]

What are they planning then? Moving away fans?

I'm in a section of SK4 that is apparently going to be reserved for disabled supporters and their carers as from 2014/15 season.

 

[Jeff]

I'm in a section of SK4 that is apparently going to be reserved for disabled supporters and their carers as from 2014/15 season.

Don't worry about it. You'll probably trip over one of those chains and become disabled, so you'll be able to keep your seat.

 

[spionfox]

Don't worry about it. You'll probably trip over one of those chains and become disabled, so you'll be able to keep your seat.

Now there's an idea..............

 

[drummindefender]

So is konchesky going to QPR ?

 

[Mawsley]

If the club is willing to share some information with the Trust on this aspect (we keep asking)

So, in this spirit of full disclosure...

How many members do you have?

 

[Mawsley]

...it's a damned sight better than anything previously in place to protect clubs like ours

The wages cap would have prevented ridiculous salary levels.

 

[FryattFox]

The wages cap would have prevented ridiculous salary levels.

But would have further widened the gulf between the PL and the Championship.

 

[fitz]

So, in this spirit of full disclosure...

How many members do you have?

To the nearest 10 would do.

 

[The Old Fox]

Not really. The whole point is that clubs run themselves sustainably by paying out less than they get in. The way to do this is to pay less in wages. Owners pumping millions in is not sustainable and does nothing to promote sensible spending. FFP isn't perfect but it's a damned sight better than anything previously in place to protect clubs like ours ending up like Pompey or Coventry off the back of crap ownership.

I am afraid that if you really think that FFP was brought in to help Football League clubs, you are sadly naive. Once we are settled into a system whereby the same teams that are relegated are, almost automatically, gaining promotion the next season, the next "good idea" will emerge. Why not jettison the relegation/promotion concept and set up a feeder club system?

 

[Matt_B]

I am afraid that if you really think that FFP was brought in to help Football League clubs, you are sadly naive. Once we are settled into a system whereby the same teams that are relegated are, almost automatically, gaining promotion the next season, the next "good idea" will emerge. Why not jettison the relegation/promotion concept and set up a feeder club system?

What are the stats on relegated teams getting automatically promoted the next season? I'm genuinely curious.

 

[LeeCovFox]

I am afraid that if you really think that FFP was brought in to help Football League clubs, you are sadly naive. Once we are settled into a system whereby the same teams that are relegated are, almost automatically, gaining promotion the next season, the next "good idea" will emerge. Why not jettison the relegation/promotion concept and set up a feeder club system?

For as long as I've followe the game people have been talking about promotion being much easier for rich relegated sides. It hasn't happened yet. Money is a lovely advantage but doesn't meam much if you're badly managed, which is why these teams come down in the first place.

 

[Mawsley]

For as long as I've been interested in football people have blamed managers for relegation as if it were all their fault.

 

[Jeff]

I am afraid that if you really think that FFP was brought in to help Football League clubs, you are sadly naive.

It was brought in by the football league and approved by the clubs in the football league. Why do you think they did it?

 

[Mawsley]

It was brought in by the football league and approved by the clubs in the football league. Why do you think they did it?

I bet that is the same question they're asking themselves.

 

[Graz]

What are the stats on relegated teams getting automatically promoted the next season? I'm genuinely curious.

I saw the number somewhere the other day, but can't remember exactly now or where I saw it. A lot lower than I expected though... Think it was about 17. Sure it worked out as less than one per season anyway

 

[st albans fox]

I am afraid that if you really think that FFP was brought in to help Football League clubs, you are sadly naive. Once we are settled into a system whereby the same teams that are relegated are, almost automatically, gaining promotion the next season, the next "good idea" will emerge. Why not jettison the relegation/promotion concept and set up a feeder club system?

i tend to agree with this in general terms. the new higher parachute payments should mean that the relegated clubs have an even better chance of promotion in season 1 or 2. with the established championship clubs hamstrung to a degree by FFP, it will be interesting to see how the dynamics are affected. i always thought promotion last season was vital to avoid the problem we now have re FFP. now its real gun to the head stuff as missing out this season will be double whammy as the relegated teams next season come down with even bigger war chests and players not yet necessarily on the larger contracts that the bigger sky deal will deliver.

 

[LeeCovFox]

For as long as I've been interested in football people have blamed managers for relegation as if it were all their fault.

I meant the management of the club in general rather than of the team, although that was very clear in my post. Not that it necessarily follows, in all fairness. So yeah, talking bollocks. :icon_bigg