LCFC Chairman Answers Trust Members on Club Finance

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Foxes_Trust said:
Members have paid their £10 & should get some benefits, in this case being able to ask their questions of the LCFC chairman.

The members have asked numerous questions on a variety of topics including some of those you mention above, they will feature in future articles, so keep reading

So the rest of us who don't fancy shelling out another £10 on top of the other money we pump into the club (season tickets, shirts, food, drink, fathers day "special" pack - including last year shirt, club shop shite including car sticker with new tacky slogan) are not as worthy and should not expect dialogue from the leader of our club.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Maybe trust members should get their own special toilet cubical with extra soft padded toilet paper, i'm suprised you put up with sharing with us non FT memebers.
 
Babylon said:
Maybe trust members should get their own special toilet cubical with extra soft padded toilet paper, i'm suprised you put up with sharing with us non FT memebers.
Bugger! As a FT member I was just about to propose that!:icon_lol: ;)
 
Real Sharapova said:
Bugger! As a FT member I was just about to propose an FT members only glory hole

ffs real, not now.....
 
It makes me sound pretty bad, but I am getting a little bored with all of this now.

The club is fooked because of years of mis management. That isn't my fault, I gave them my money and they used it to helicopter themselves around and buy crap like akin-bad-buy.

I'm not going to waste my time worrying about it. It either gets fixed or it doesn't! I'm still going to go to the games and spend my money but it becomes clear that no matter what you say to the club they will do it their way. Often the wrong way.

Feck it!
 
Foxes_Trust said:
Members have paid their £10 & should get some benefits, in this case being able to ask their questions of the LCFC chairman.

The members have asked numerous questions on a variety of topics including some of those you mention above, they will feature in future articles, so keep reading

Can you tell me if ALL the FT members are season ticket holders?

If the FT members want to put the money where their mouths are they should all be season ticket holders first. Season ticket money benefits the club more than paying £10 into the FT coffers.
 
If you want to ask questions, it looks likely that as well as the committee members, anyone who wants to raise a specific point can invite themselves to the Fans Consultative Committee via Peter Jones.
 
Babylon said:
So the rest of us who don't fancy shelling out another £10 on top of the other money we pump into the club (season tickets, shirts, food, drink, fathers day "special" pack - including last year shirt, club shop shite including car sticker with new tacky slogan) are not as worthy and should not expect dialogue from the leader of our club.

That's not true is it - all fans can read what the Chairman has stated on our website, so all have dialogue.

It's just that your specific question may not be put forward, alternatively a members may have asked the same question that you would have.

The Chairman has 8 pages of questions from members, this opportunity was bound to be a popular, hence we only gave the chance to our members.
 
Boy Genius said:
Can you tell me if ALL the FT members are season ticket holders?

If the FT members want to put the money where their mouths are they should all be season ticket holders first. Season ticket money benefits the club more than paying £10 into the FT coffers.

The FT is representative of the fan base & therefore has ST's, occasional match goers & those who go rarely, we haven't asked the members to state this, so can't break it down % wise.

Agreed that ST's are important, we hope more of them will become members over the coming season.

Why don't you put your money & efforts where your mouth is & get actively involved with the Trust?
 
Foxes_Trust said:
The FT is representative of the fan base & therefore has ST's, occasional match goers & those who go rarely, we haven't asked the members to state this, so can't break it down % wise.

Agreed that ST's are important, we hope more of them will become members over the coming season.

Why don't you put your money & efforts where your mouth is & get actively involved with the Trust?

I have THREE season tickets, which I suspect is more than you have. I also lost the thick end of of 8 grand when the club went into admin last time, money I will never see again. No fecker had a whip round for me or came in to sponsor one of my machines to help keep me going.
IMO the questions to this chairman should come from the ST holders and not some nosey sod who is an armchair supporter, who looks down on everybody else because he has coughed up £10 to become a member of the FT. My 3 season tickets also generate other monies for the club as in hidden extras like programmes, food and drink week in week out.
So I do, like thousands of other ST holders, put money where my mouth is, and I dont want to chuck another £10 at an organisation which cannot convince me what they do is effective towards the club and its fans. An organisation that the club treats with contempt and keeps them in the dark on the important issues the fans want to hear about.
 
Boy Genius said:
I have THREE season tickets, which I suspect is more than you have. I also lost the thick end of of 8 grand when the club went into admin last time, money I will never see again. No fecker had a whip round for me or came in to sponsor one of my machines to help keep me going.
IMO the questions to this chairman should come from the ST holders and not some nosey sod who is an armchair supporter, who looks down on everybody else because he has coughed up £10 to become a member of the FT. My 3 season tickets also generate other monies for the club as in hidden extras like programmes, food and drink week in week out.
So I do, like thousands of other ST holders, put money where my mouth is, and I dont want to chuck another £10 at an organisation which cannot convince me what they do is effective towards the club and its fans. An organisation that the club treats with contempt and keeps them in the dark on the important issues the fans want to hear about.


You miserable fecker :icon_lol:
 
I personally thought it was a good post. But why do you have 3 season tickets BG?

a) Are you that miserable you don't want anybody to sit next you?
b) You are a great big fat fukk?
c) Like A-Z has pointed out in a previous post. They are "grooming" seats?
d) Other?
 
Melton Fox said:
I personally thought it was a good post. But why do you have 3 season tickets BG?

a) Are you that miserable you don't want anybody to sit next you?
b) You are a great big fat fukk?
c) Like A-Z has pointed out in a previous post. They are "grooming" seats?
d) Other?

Answer Yes to all the above :icon_lol:
 
No, I don't have a season ticket (let alone 3), and haven't had for a long time. For the last 25 years plus the number of home games I have been able to get to has been limited, and I usually end up seeing as many away games as home ones in a season. I'm not sure that makes me, or the many others on this site who don't live locally, any less a supporter. I do have a club membership, and joined the trust at the outset.

I too "lost" money when the club went into admin - not as much as BG, but I would guess at least as high a propotion of my personal net worth. I never saw my shares as an investment and wrote them off the day I bought them. When the new company was formed there was no way I could become an individual shareholder, but I made a donation to the trust (again with my eyes wide open) to help them acquire a holding on behalf of supporters like myself, which they have done. I pay my £10 a year to the trust, and that entitles me to have an input into their activities and to call them to account if I don't like what they do. It's open to anyone else to do the same. Just like any other mutual organisation.

I never expected miracles, and it was inevitable that, once the initial emotion had calmed down, that their influence would be limited. However the relationship they have established with the board is still more than many trusts and similar organisations have achieved, though obviously less than, say, the Brentford Trust, which managed to buy the club. It is interesting that many of their members are now moaning that they "don't
do enough" or operate in a goldfish bowl.

Maybe there should be some seperate voice for ST holders. I wouldn't object if there was. If enough of them want that, then they should organise themselves to get it. Same for any other group.

The trust has informed people on this board about something it has done. It seems a lot of people don't like it - fair enough, in which case there are three choices - join it, ignore it, or set up an alternative.
 
Melton Fox said:
I personally thought it was a good post. But why do you have 3 season tickets BG?

a) Are you that miserable you don't want anybody to sit next you?
b) You are a great big fat fukk?
c) Like A-Z has pointed out in a previous post. They are "grooming" seats?
d) Other?

I have bought one for the last three seasons........... thats 3 :icon_razz
 
OG............ wake up to the fact the FT treat you like mushrooms, keep you in the dark and feed you bullshit.
Look at the fiasco of the Birch being made redundant, they didnt know what the feck was going on and were not told anything by the higher powers. It took them a long time to come up with the name "Bucci". It seems they just let snippets out to keep the masses happy....

Also I was not on about losing money via shareholding. I lost money due to business involvement, and I am also not one of the creditors who stand to get at least a few pence in the pound over a period of time either.
 
If we each put up £10,000 then we could disintermediate the FT altogether. ;)
 
Steven said:
If we each put up £10,000 then we could disintermediate the FT altogether. ;)

then declare civil war................:icon_bigg
 
Boy Genius said:
then declare civil war................:icon_bigg

No just treat them as an irrelevance, as we do now, but with a bit more clout. ;)
 
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