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lazzer said:
highland is remaining firm and im right behind him creosoting my arse as we speak :icon_bigg
They had enough in stock then did they?
 
highland fox said:
I think the Goalkeeping position is one of the least of our worries,we desperately need someone to put the ball in the opponents net not stop them going in ours.Rab or Henderson at the moment I couldn't care less,we have bigger Fish to fry IMO.

I dont agree with you there H, granted we need somebody to stick the ball in the net, but we also need to be in a position where we can keep clean sheets and have confidence in the spine of our team, which in any squad should be the strongest part, that means having a solid goalkeeper who commands his area and inspires confidence amongst his defenders, IMO there are a number of key positions that need attention.

IMO we need a decent all action central midfielder that will have an effect on the game for 90 minutes, we need a left sided defender / wing back, and we definately need 2 strikers. But whilst plugging these gaps there are other areas that need attention if we are to seriously start moving back up the table and building for this 3 year plan.
 
PFKAKTF FOX said:
I dont agree with you there H, granted we need somebody to stick the ball in the net, but we also need to be in a position where we can keep clean sheets and have confidence in the spine of our team, which in any squad should be the strongest part, that means having a solid goalkeeper who commands his area and inspires confidence amongst his defenders, IMO there are a number of key positions that need attention.

IMO we need a decent all action central midfielder that will have an effect on the game for 90 minutes, we need a left sided defender / wing back, and we definately need 2 strikers. But whilst plugging these gaps there are other areas that need attention if we are to seriously start moving back up the table and building for this 3 year plan.

I'm not having that sorry.Whilst in the long term we do need to sort the Goalkeeper situation out at the moment a Striker/Strikers is/are of paramount importance.Just look at our Goals for ans Goals against columns this Season.Whilst one is about average for the League the other is well below average.
 
I'm with the 'Rab Out' comments, yes scoring is the main problem, but his shots saved to goals scored stats must be shite! How many games this season have we come away saying they have had only 3-5 shots on target all game and they have scored 1-2 goals? Strikers need to score goals and keepers need to save them and IMO Rab hasn't done this. If the fecking outfield players had scored a couple from the 30^ odd attempts we had in a game then it would'nt be a problem granted, but I can not remember any comments anywhere saying didn't Rab have a good game. Henderson may not be any better, but I think he should be given a chance, he has done more this season in one game than Rab all season with his Cardiff performance getting us into the next round of the cup.
I am not saying this is the answer to all of the problems just my opinion of Rab.
 
DurhamFox said:
Nobody joins with a happy heart Lazzer, it just has to be done....

I think some do actually DF they only appear when some poor fecker is in the Shite,they'd probably like to see him stoned to death in the Town Hall Square.However I do not include your good self in that statement:icon_wink
 
highland fox said:
I'm not having that sorry.Whilst in the long term we do need to sort the Goalkeeper situation out at the moment a Striker/Strikers is/are of paramount importance.Just look at our Goals for ans Goals against columns this Season.Whilst one is about average for the League the other is well below average.


I agree that we need a goalscorer or 2 and that getting them in would make a difference, but I also believe there are other areas which need to be addressed as well. IMO it is not just a case that we are missing chances and that is it, we are conceding soft goals, we are not physical enough in midfield we are too lightweight and we dont have a winners mentality, and all these are key issues as to why we are in the position we are in. Look back at last season we were not crying out for a striker then as well, please lets not be blinded into thinking that one decent goalscorer will solve everything because it wont !
 
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Sorry but I want Levein to stay until the end of the season. The team is shocking in places, the tactics inept and confidence at zero. But I don't want Dublin in charge and that's what will happen if he gets the push. If he can get in a couple of players with some experience that the others will respect I think it could make all the difference. The one one key thing we are missing (apart from goals!) is any kind of leader on the pitch. If we can by some miracle find one of those we'll be OK.
 
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highland fox said:
I think some do actually DF they only appear when some poor fecker is in the Shite,they'd probably like to see him stoned to death in the Town Hall Square.However I do not include your good self in that statement:icon_wink

I suppose if he was stoned to death in the Town Hall Square it would solve the problem of having to pay him off ! Good thinking H !
 
PFKAKTF FOX said:
I agree that we need a goalscorer or 2 and that getting them in would make a difference, but I also believe there are other areas which need to be addressed as well. IMO it is not just a case that we are missing chances and that is it, we are conceding soft goals, we are not physical enough in midfield we are too lightweight and we dont have a winners mentality, and all these are key issues as to why we are in the position we are in. Look back at last season we were not crying out for a striker then as well, please lets not be blinded into thinking that one decent goalscorer will slove everything because it wont !

I was crying out for a Striker last season though,we didn't score nowhere near enough Goals.The Goalscoring problem hasdn't been sorted since Dickov left the Club,Connolly was little better than what we have now.
 
PFKAKTF FOX said:
I suppose if he was stoned to death in the Town Hall Square it would solve the problem of having to pay him off ! Good thinking H !
And you'd be first there with your boulders :icon_wink
 
Ox Fox said:
Sorry but I want Levein to stay until the end of the season. The team is shocking in places, the tactics inept and confidence at zero. But I don't want Dublin in charge and that's what will happen if he gets the push. If he can get in a couple of players with some experience that the others will respect I think it could make all the difference. The one one key thing we are missing (apart from goals!) is any kind of leader on the pitch. If we can by some miracle find one of those we'll be OK.

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Well I am shocked 'A Levein Outer' jumps ship !!!!
 
highland fox said:
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Well I am shocked 'A Levein Outer' jumps ship !!!!

Never said I wanted him out, just the team are shite.
 
highland fox said:
And you'd be first there with your boulders :icon_wink

Actually I wouldnt, as I dont hate Levein, I am not convinced he is the man to turn this situation around but I do believe that he has done some good work, even at the Norwich game I felt sad and sorry for him, I really want him to succeed, I like the guy, I have never abused him and I didnt join in the Levein out chants on saturday.

But it is my opinion that he doesnt have what it takes to turn this around, and I have stated my opinion on here but also respected people who dont share the same point of view.

The truth is would there be such a strong feeling that Levein should go if people genuinely felt we were only 2 or 3 players away from changing it all around, and the truth is no, I am not doubting that Levein couldnt identify 2 or 3 very good and technically gifted players, but what I do doubt is whether he can then find the tactics and character to motivate the players to go out and perform and win football matches.
 
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PFKAKTF FOX said:
Actually I wouldnt, as I dont hate Levein, I am not convinced he is the man to turn this situation around but I do believe that he has done some good work, even at the Norwich game I felt sad and sorry for him, I really want him to succeed, I like the guy, I have never abused him and I didnt join in the Levein out chants on saturday.

But it is my opinion that he doesnt have what it takes to turn this around, and I have stated my opinion on here but also respected people who dont share the same point of view.

The truth is would there be such a strong feeling that Levein should go if people genuinely felt we were only 2 or 3 players away from changing it all around, and the truth is no, I am not doubting that Levein couldnt identify 2 or 3 very good and technically gifted players, but what I do doubt is whether he can then find the tactics and character to motivate the players to go out and perform and win football matches.

I honestly don't think its motivation at all, in terms of effort I don't think you can argue with that over the past few months, its lack of concentration from some young players and some that should know better, what a manager can do about that I'm not sure, apart from letting the young players get experience to avoid it in the future.

The only thing wrong with the team as it stands at the moment is that we don't take chances, hence all the talk about new forwards. Norwich had one chance, took it, Millwall had one chance and we took it for them.

If we had someone or the team converted half the chances we got we'd have won both those, therefore, as long as confidence isn't shot and we continue playing as we have a new striker could be all we need.

Incidentally, on the motivation side, history tells us thats not been a problem before and I don't see it as an issue at the moment:

He [CL] left Hearts with his players sad to see him go, but knowing that he was destined for better things. Paul Hartley, a midfielder at Hearts, said on Levein’s departure:

“There is no doubt Craig will end up in the Premiership. It might not happen this season but he will definitely get Leicester there. Obviously, it's disappointing to lose him. Everyone knows he has done a tremendous job here but I think he had to take this opportunity. Chances like this don't come along often. The gaffer has helped me in my career, he has developed me as a player and I will always be grateful. But good luck to him, I hope he goes on to even better things.”

Heart’s skipper Steven Pressley highlighted the esteem with which they held Craig in by revealing:

“Every player feared this day would come. But you sometimes lose managers because of failure, not always because of success. One consolation is we have lost Craig because of his success. He can be proud of that and so can the players. He spoke to us this morning and there was a great disappointment. He wasn't just respected as a manager, he was respected as a man. He was a great man-manager for Hearts and he will be sorely missed. Results and performances have given him this chance and I think it was inevitable a big job in England would come his way one day. It's sad for us that day has come now, even though we are delighted for him.”
 
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