People That Piss You Off

[H T B]

I couldn't give a shit if TM had been bragging about it.

The no-good wasn't just retreiving his ball for fecks sake, he was upto no good, and deserved all he got.


****in do gooders, maybe TM was bragging about what he would do to the scumbag so that word would get around and said shitbag would not go on TM's property again.

 

[Brauny Blue]

Martin got a one-man crime wave removed from society, fair play to him.

Absolutely.

 

[Boy Genius]

I heard on the radio today that a teenager in Nottingham was stabbed to death after being caught breaking into a house. The OB are questioning the house owner with a view to charging him for murder.

It seems so wrong.

 

[Harbro-Fox]

Villa fans today. Booing their team because they lost at home to Spurs. Look where you were when MON joined !

 

[drummindefender]

I wouldn't class myself as a do-gooder just someones who studied the case when i did law at a level, and therefore actually know what happened instead of how daily mail type papers portrayed it.

 

[lazzer]

I wouldn't class myself as a do-gooder just someones who studied the case when i did law at a level, and therefore actually know what happened instead of how daily mail type papers portrayed it.

You may change your view if it ever happens to you or someone close to you.You may also feel different when you have worked for a few years and invested your "hard earned" in personal belongings . The guy who got killed was a scumbag pikey and had robbed hundreds of houses ,taking belongings that some people had worked hard for and could ill afford to loose.
Ok Martin wasnt the full biscuit but IMHO he was in his right to defend his property. Moral of the story dont burgle people houses.

 

[drummindefender]

You may change your view if it ever happens to you or someone close to you.You may also feel different when you have worked for a few years and invested your "hard earned" in personal belongings . The guy who got killed was a scumbag pikey and had robbed hundreds of houses ,taking belongings that some people had worked hard for and could ill afford to loose.
Ok Martin wasnt the full biscuit but IMHO he was in his right to defend his property. Moral of the story dont burgle people houses.

Don't get me wrong Lazzer, im not saying that if i found myself in a similar situation i wouldn't want to get even. But the fact with the Martin case is that he couldn't get away with it as it wasn't what the law termed "reasonable force" as he was leaving his house. The law does allow you to confront an intruder, people just seem to forget that and cite the Martin case as Britain gone mad, when in reality if the law had sided with him an extremely dangerous precedent would have been set.

 

[Polar Bear]

Martin did 'get away with it' to a considerable extent; he got a massively-reduced sentence to what he would have done if he'd shot someone in the back and allowed them to bleed to death in other circumstances (edited to note this was following his appeal). There are people with more genuine claims to self-defence who did not get off so lightly, but they didn't have a massive tabloid campaign going for them. FWIW, in his case the law probably got it about right.

Out of interest, in what moral code is property more important than life?

 

[lazzer]

Don't get me wrong Lazzer, im not saying that if i found myself in a similar situation i wouldn't want to get even. But the fact with the Martin case is that he couldn't get away with it as it wasn't what the law termed "reasonable force" as he was leaving his house. The law does allow you to confront an intruder, people just seem to forget that and cite the Martin case as Britain gone mad, when in reality if the law had sided with him an extremely dangerous precedent would have been set.

The law is an ass.My comments were not alluding the guilt of Mr Martin but to the rights of the thieving horrible bastard that was robbing him.

 

[RHYDAL]

Out of interest, in what moral code is property more important than life?

When it involves oil.

 

[FIF]

Out of interest, in what moral code is property more important than life?

In what moral code is burgling people's houses ok?

 

[Brauny Blue]

Out of interest, in what moral code is property more important than life?

And what do you think TM should have done

a) hide in cupboard and hope they go away
b) ask them politely to vacate his premises
c) take up arms, and try and save you skin against unknown villains.

Its a no brainer to me. I dont possess firearms, but i do have things that can be used as weapons. If anyone breaks into my house i would not hesitate to use them.
I would sooner spend 3yrs doing porridge knowing that i still have a future, rather than raising the share price in Gilrose

 

[Matt_B]

And what do you think TM should have done

a) hide in cupboard and hope they go away
b) ask them politely to vacate his premises
c) take up arms, and try and save you skin against unknown villains.

Its a no brainer to me. I dont possess firearms, but i do have things that can be used as weapons. If anyone breaks into my house i would not hesitate to use them.
I would sooner spend 3yrs doing porridge knowing that i still have a future, rather than raising the share price in Gilrose

The point in TM's case was that he didn't have to do any of those options, the guy was already leaving. Had he done the same thing whilst the guy was still in his house and posing a danger then the outcome would have been different.

 

[lazzer]

Martin did 'get away with it' to a considerable extent; he got a massively-reduced sentence to what he would have done if he'd shot someone in the back and allowed them to bleed to death in other circumstances (edited to note this was following his appeal). There are people with more genuine claims to self-defence who did not get off so lightly, but they didn't have a massive tabloid campaign going for them. FWIW, in his case the law probably got it about right.

Out of interest, in what moral code is property more important than life?

The code of conduct in my house and when its my ****ing property.

 

[RHYDAL]

The code of conduct in my house and when its my ****ing property.

Have to agree. Classing it as property is a bit simplistic. My house and all that's in it represents 20 years of hard(ish) work, hopes and memories. A lot of the stuff in it is crap, but it's irreplacable crap.

The sort of stuff they're in your house for these days is likely to include handed down jewellery, cd collections, kids video games/consoles, laptops and mobile phones. All of these are the fruit of work which some nomark is looking to have away at the expense of your wife and kids peace of mind and heartache.
They are also after bills, passports, credit cards in order to nick your good name to obtain credit etc. which is likely to royaly screw you for years. They don't give a flying feck about you so why should you have any respect for them when you catch 'em. They used to hang horse thieves, not because of the value of the horse, but because of what a horse represented in terms of importance to a person's life.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again....I catch one and no-one will ever know about it. I learnt from the last time it happened that involving the police is a mistake.

 

[homer]

All property is theft

I'd shoot the feckin' lot of you

 

[lazzer]

All property is theft

I'd shoot my manky man muck over the feckin' lot of you

sickening

 

[highland fox]

All property is theft

I'd shoot the feckin' lot of you

you pinch Tom O'Connor's jokes

 

[Willlow]

Morons who celebrate St Patrick's day who arent irish and dont even have irish relatives.

 

[Yorkshire Vixen]

Morons who celebrate St Patrick's day who arent irish and dont even have irish relatives.

aye any excuse for a piss up