Peter Taylor

[glyn]

Unbelievable the similarities to when Taylor was appointed at Leicester, cannot believe they are going to make the same mistakes.

well if he messes this one up at least he will never get a job above League One again, or get close to the England job.

 

[glyn]

well if he messes this one up at least he will never get a job above League One again, or get close to the England job.

What am I saying? Bassett has managed to keep a living for years messing up clubs.

 

[newtonfox]

According to Teamtalk Paper talk, in today's Daily Star it is being reported that Charlton are set to name Taylor as their new manager within the next 48 hours.

in that case we should past them on the way up i hope

 

[Redditch Fox]

What am I saying? Bassett has managed to keep a living for years messing up clubs.

Yep - that's one of the strange things about the game....the same recurrent failures get re-cycled all the time.

In spite of everything, I give the Leicester board credit for trying something different by bringing in Levein - although it so happened that he proved useless; then appointing a new face to management in RK, rather than digging up the old rubbish that we might have been served.

But on Taylor - I am not so sure that he would be a disaster at Charlton....it's more than possible that he has learned from his mistakes here and it was just a bad move to bring him to Filbert Street at that stage of his career...and to follow MON. As they say "always follow failure; never follow success."

 

[PFKAKTF FOX]

Yep - that's one of the strange things about the game....the same recurrent failures get re-cycled all the time.

In spite of everything, I give the Leicester board credit for trying something different by bringing in Levein - although it so happened that he proved useless; then appointing a new face to management in RK, rather than digging up the old rubbish that we might have been served.

But on Taylor - I am not so sure that he would be a disaster at Charlton....it's more than possible that he has learned from his mistakes here and it was just a bad move to bring him to Filbert Street at that stage of his career...and to follow MON. As they say "always follow failure; never follow success."

You are probably right Redditch, I would doubt Taylor would ever repeat the mistakes he made at Leicester. I would think this time he would be more cautious and maybe bring in 3 or 4 players and build on the foundations Curbishley has built as oppose to coming in and trying to change too much, as he did here.

 

[OldGit]

I'm sure he wouldn't make exactly the same mistakes again, but he has shown a consistent style wherever he has been - to put it crudely, bring in a lot of players, largely unknowns or one-season wonders, and hope someone will come good. It has worked reasonably well in the lower leagues, though it seems to have started to run out of steam at Hull.

But let's be p[ositive. Perhaps when he gets access to the Charlton piggy bank he will part with good money for MDV?:icon_wink

 

[Redditch Fox]

I'm sure he wouldn't make exactly the same mistakes again, but he has shown a consistent style wherever he has been - to put it crudely, bring in a lot of players, largely unknowns or one-season wonders, and hope someone will come good. It has worked reasonably well in the lower leagues, though it seems to have started to run out of steam at Hull.

But let's be p[ositive. Perhaps when he gets access to the Charlton piggy bank he will part with good money for MDV?:icon_wink

I have the impression that the Charlton job is not particularly attractive. Reportedly, Paul Jewell turned it down and he - if he has any sense, which i'm sure he has, could do with leaving Wigan whilst the goings good - Curbishley has done really well to keep a natural second tier outfit in the premiership and I guess most people in the game think that the only way is down now.

I realise you are not serious about MDV etc but , if appointed Taylor, is going to find it challenging to bring in players....I think he will have to try to do a Bolton because decent home based players won't be that keen.

As far as our better players are concerned, we are as likely to lose them to better off fizzy league clubs as premiership clubs (with the possible exception of Stearman).

 

[Lboro fox]

I have the impression that the Charlton job is not particularly attractive. Reportedly, Paul Jewell turned it down and he - if he has any sense, which i'm sure he has, could do with leaving Wigan whilst the goings good - Curbishley has done really well to keep a natural second tier outfit in the premiership and I guess most people in the game think that the only way is down now.

I realise you are not serious about MDV etc but , if appointed Taylor, is going to find it challenging to bring in players....I think he will have to try to do a Bolton because decent home based players won't be that keen.

As far as our better players are concerned, we are as likely to lose them to better off fizzy league clubs as premiership clubs (with the possible exception of Stearman).

Im sure, Delaney, Lewis, Akinbye, Ellison, Slowcroft and Marshall would all jump at the chance to sign for Charlton with PT at the helm.

 

[MHS]

Im sure, Delaney, Lewis, Akinbye, Ellison, Slowcroft and Marshall would all jump at the chance to sign for Charlton with PT at the helm.

He retired. :icon_razz

 

[glyn]

IReportedly, Paul Jewell turned it down .

Tut tut. I do hope Charlton aren't going round interviewing several managers to decide on who is best for the job. If that's the case their conduct is a disgrace to football

 

[Redditch Fox]

Im sure, Delaney, Lewis, Akinbye, Ellison, Slowcroft and Marshall would all jump at the chance to sign for Charlton with PT at the helm.

Basically, Peter Taylor was the worst manager we have had - in my opinion - but paradoxically he is not a complete prat and I would expect him to be a lot more effective at Charlton than he was at Leicester....although the job IMO is a poisoned challice.

At Leicester he was undoubtedly abetted by an off the wall chairman and an indolent board in his rash attempts to emulate MON...but he will have learned a lot from his mistakes.

 

[Lboro fox]

Basically, Peter Taylor was the worst manager we have had - in my opinion - but paradoxically he is not a complete prat and I would expect him to be a lot more effective at Charlton than he was at Leicester....although the job IMO is a poisoned challice.

At Leicester he was undoubtedly abetted by an off the wall chairman and an indolent board in his rash attempts to emulate MON...but he will have learned a lot from his mistakes.

Although, he confirms himself as a continued egotitical prat, by 'bigging' himself up to being in the running for the England job. Im sure his league record is fairly poor by anyones standards and Charlton would be crazy to appoint him IMO.

 

[PFKAKTF FOX]

Although, he confirms himself as a continued egotitical prat, by 'bigging' himself up to being in the running for the England job. Im sure his league record is fairly poor by anyones standards and Charlton would be crazy to appoint him IMO.

His league record will be ok, no doubt aided and abetted by successful promotion campaigns with Brighton and Hull, since he left Leicester, however this success has been achieved in the lower divisions and I am amazed that any club from the top flight would seriously consider, let alone appoint him based on his one previous and spectacular failed attempt at premiership management.

 

[Lboro fox]

His league record will be ok, no doubt aided and abetted by successful promotion campaigns with Brighton and Hull, since he left Leicester, however this success has been achieved in the lower divisions and I am amazed that any club from the top flight would seriously consider, let alone appoint him based on his one previous and spectacular failed attempt at premiership management.

Thats true, i forgot about Brighton. However, it makes me chuckle that his first port of call for signings at a new club is anyone that he may have signed for city at one time. It just makes me laugh that the players he signed to keep us in the prem are now the ones he relied on to get him out of league 1.

 

[PFKAKTF FOX]

Thats true, i forgot about Brighton. However, it makes me chuckle that his first port of call for signings at a new club is anyone that he may have signed for city at one time. It just makes me laugh that the players he signed to keep us in the prem are now the ones he relied on to get him out of league 1.

Says a lot about his ability too be honest, I would not argue the fact that he is a very good lower league manager and based on last season with Hull, adequate for the championship. But that could be said about numerous managers at that level, managers who would never be considered to manage at top level football clubs.

The problem with Taylor, is that the footballing world seem fit to ignore and even try to forget his stint with Leicester and continue to build and increase the hype that because of his involvement with the U21's he is some sort of coaching / management genuis.

 

[Fox From The Hudd]

The problem with Taylor, is that the footballing world seem fit to ignore and even try to forget his stint with Leicester and continue to build and increase the hype that because of his involvement with the U21's he is some sort of coaching / management genuis.

Very good point - he is one of the media "untouchables" who is for ever getting "bigged up"

His record is far from astonishing even outside of his Leicester debacle. To really prove/redeem himself he should have Hull challenging for the play-offs.

 

[OldGit]

He has indeed been quite successful with the U-21s, but that proves nothing for his credentials as a top club manager. The U-21s are a transient bunch of players, many making the squad only once or twice, and therefore suited to his style - try out as many players as you can find and see what gels. Costs you nothing. If someone is "difficult" no need to work on them to fit into a settled side - just try the next. The club's do all the hard work developing these young talents.

Building an effective club squad in the premiership / championship - and having to pay for your mistakes as well as your successes - is something else. If he were to be successful in moving Hull on to being a top championship side, then he might be worth someone taking a gamble, but not on the evidence to date.

 

[PFKAKTF FOX]

It is being reported today in the press (See Papertalk on www.teamtalk.com )that Taylor has been offered the Charlton managers job and the salary is set to be a staggering £700,000 per year.

Unbelievable, only in football can such fecking incompetence be rewarded with countless opportunities and benefits that are grossly exaggerated to the incumbants actual abilities.

 

[Ox Fox]

The man is a charlatan, no more no less.

As usual in Premier League football it's not what you know...

 

[OldGit]

The man is a charlatan, no more no less.

As usual in Premier League football it's not what you know...

Charlatan athletic, no less