If you are right and Edward IV was debarred then surely the rightful King in 1461 would have been George Duke of Clarence and not Richard III.
At no time did Richard III claim that Edward IV was illegitimate. Indeed he was a loyal subject who fought alongside his brother.
Richard IIIs claim to the throne came through the allegation that Edward V was illegitimate not Edward IV.
Surely Syd, you are not confusing your Edward's
I think syd is David Icke, that's what the Leicester connection is. There are other similarities as well.
He was from Leicester though.Think Icke played for Coventry as opposed to Leicester didn't he?
That's not at all what happened. You're making up your own shit again.As for the other similarities, I'm not sure how an understanding of local history encourages a comparison with a sect leader.
Some of us are having problems believing you know anything at all.However the disbelief among various posters that I do know my local history has allowed me to extend my list of observations on the work ethic of the Blue Maniac Sofa Club
Hundreds of millions of foreigners watch football. What a profoundly stupid thing to say.(a) No foreigners (or at the very least murky people) watch football.
Who said it didn't make a noise? I hate to keep repeating myself, but you're making up your own shit again.(b) Singing of an unpleasant nature at football games makes no noise and doesn't add to the atmosphere.
Nope, nobody's said anything even close to that. Making it up.(c) Singing at football matches should be censored by an independent body with a view to making it more intellectually stimulating.
Nope, nobody said that either. As I said before, though, based on the standard your previous posts some of us are finding it hard to believe you know anything about anything.(d) Leicester fans are dumb, ignorant and can't possibly know anything about Leicestershire without first reaching for the encyclopaedia.
Inside the ground? Virtually impossible, Sydney. Nice aim though.(e) All grammar among football fans should be carefully monitored and controlled.
Nope. And neither are stupid people necessarily poor.(f) Poor people are stupid.
Are you claiming to have a three-digit IQ?(g) Anyone with an IQ over 100 is gay.
What are you on about now? Yet another imaginary conversation you've had?(h) The majority of people on this forum (and all of those in the Blue Maniac Sofa Club) would do well do understand what a Fascist actually is, and then apologise for it.
Think Icke played for Coventry as opposed to Leicester didn't he?
As for the other similarities, I'm not sure how an understanding of local history encourages a comparison with a sect leader.
the disbelief among various posters that I do know my local history...
...has allowed me to extend my list of observations on the work ethic of the Blue Maniac Sofa Club:
(a) No foreigners (or at the very least murky people) watch football.
(b) Singing of an unpleasant nature at football games makes no noise and doesn't add to the atmosphere.
(c) Singing at football matches should be censored by an independent body with a view to making it more intellectually stimulating.
(d) Leicester fans are dumb, ignorant and can't possibly know anything about Leicestershire without first reaching for the encyclopaedia.
(e) All grammar among football fans should be carefully monitored and controlled.
(f) Poor people are stupid.
(g) Anyone with an IQ over 100 is gay.
(h) The majority of people on this forum (and all of those in the Blue Maniac Sofa Club) would do well do understand what a Fascist actually is, and then apologise for it.
Yes, making shit up again. You sure you're not a Christian, Syd? You're very boring, but I'm sure you know this.Glad to see the Sofa King and Piers Gaveston are soiling themselves all over again. Not very impressed by the ripostes this time, all of them seem to have an air of 'no, that's you that is'. And the memory loss is very convenient. A shame you can't apply that to those cold and bony nights at Blue Maniac's house. The flickering candlelight. The hot unsteady breaths. A long hard column, straining at stretching fabric. Uncalled for. Unwelcomed. 'Now we're going to play a little game called The Naughty Flamingo, Macky'. If you tell us what happened, we can make it all okay, you know. Uncle Benedict will share your pain.
Yes, making shit up again. You sure you're not a Christian, Syd? You're very boring, but I'm sure you know this.
Some of us are having problems believing you know anything at all.
As I said before, though, based on the standard your previous posts some of us are finding it hard to believe you know anything about anything.
Are you claiming to have a three-digit IQ?
Glad to see the Sofa King and Piers Gaveston are soiling themselves all over again. Not very impressed by the ripostes this time, all of them seem to have an air of 'no, that's you that is'. And the memory loss is very convenient. A shame you can't apply that to those cold and bony nights at Blue Maniac's house. The flickering candlelight. The hot unsteady breaths. A long hard column, straining at stretching fabric. Uncalled for. Unwelcomed. 'Now we're going to play a little game called The Naughty Flamingo, Macky'. If you tell us what happened, we can make it all okay, you know. Uncle Benedict will share your pain.
This stuff really is magnificent. A genuinely angry little man who never quite fulfilled his potential actually losing it, right there, right on screen, in plain text. Did you cry while you were posting this? I bet the folks are proud of you, aren't they?
I hate to say it, but this really is textbook 'how to lose an argument' stuff. WELL - YOU'RE THICK! HA! DEAL WITH THAT! And so on, so forth.
I am boring, yes, in the same way that a good historian (not David Starkey) or a good evolutionary theorist (not Richard Dawkins) is boring.
Firstly, Clarence was executed before the death of Edward IV in 1483 and his child, a virtual retard, lost his right to the throne. Leaving Richard.
I'm not angry, and I'm definitely not little. I'm just going on the evidence Sydney. If you act thick as shit, people will assume that's what you are.This stuff really is magnificent. A genuinely angry little man who never quite fulfilled his potential actually losing it, right there, right on screen, in plain text. Did you cry while you were posting this? I bet the folks are proud of you, aren't they?
I hate to say it, but this really is textbook 'how to lose an argument' stuff. WELL - YOU'RE THICK! HA! DEAL WITH THAT! And so on, so forth.
I looked up Clarence's son Edward Earl of Warwick on Wikipedia since I knew little about his personality and was fascinated to find it used exactly your phrase "virtual retard."[A remarkable coincidence.
Now it being late I retire from the fray a second time and hopefully dream of being in hospital and visited by Leicester City Ladies Football team. .
:icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: I have no ****ing clue what you're on about but it sounds horrifying.I'm going to dream about playing naughty flamingos round at BM's place. I'm rigid and straining fabric at the very thought of it.
:icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: I have no ****ing clue what you're on about but it sounds horrifying.
Glad to see the Sofa King and Piers Gaveston are soiling themselves all over again. Not very impressed by the ripostes this time, all of them seem to have an air of 'no, that's you that is'. And the memory loss is very convenient. A shame you can't apply that to those cold and bony nights at Blue Maniac's house. The flickering candlelight. The hot unsteady breaths. A long hard column, straining at stretching fabric. Uncalled for. Unwelcomed. 'Now we're going to play a little game called The Naughty Flamingo, Macky'. If you tell us what happened, we can make it all okay, you know. Uncle Benedict will share your pain.
Cuban leader?
Fray Bentos.
I will enjoy any further enlightenment Syd can throw on the 15th century and I promise him that I will believe every word.
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3 | Nottm F | 22 | 44 |
4 | Manchester C | 22 | 38 |
5 | Newcastle | 22 | 38 |
6 | Chelsea | 21 | 37 |
7 | Bournemouth | 22 | 37 |
8 | Aston Villa | 22 | 36 |
9 | Brighton | 22 | 34 |
10 | Fulham | 22 | 33 |
11 | Brentford | 22 | 28 |
12 | Palace | 22 | 27 |
13 | Manchester U | 22 | 26 |
14 | West Ham | 22 | 26 |
15 | Tottenham | 22 | 24 |
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17 | Wolves | 21 | 16 |
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19 | Leicester | 22 | 14 |
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