Ranieri out

[Mawsley]

To much doom and gloom on this forum. I am feeling quite mellow after that. We will be fine.

I used to feel like that before we had children and I had to give up hard drugs.

*I am open to offers of hard drugs.

 

[LeeCovFox]

Perhaps the people who feel like this (and I'm not criticising it, I understand it) should take a break from football, perhaps from all sports because this is sport.

Nah. The rollercoaster is the whole point. Why bother if there's no emotional response? So long as it passes within a few hours, which it does these days.

 

[fitz]

Totally agree some could do with a psychologist. Unfortunately many would be better off with a medium. The lazy shitcunts.

 

[londonfox]

We have another couple of weeks before we can be out of the CL. And there is no shame in that. Being knocked out in the 5th round of the FA Cup is no shame. If we're bottom of the league it'll just be all the mors satisfying when we survive.

Being knocked out of the FA Cup to a 10 man team in League One is shameful.

 

[Mawsley]

"We must continue to believe," he says. Continue to believe we're inferior to lower league opposition, apparently.

Thanks, Claudio, but you really aren't up to the task in hand. It's like watching Corbyn fielding questions and forming policy, nice bloke but increasingly clueless.

I get why people think he deserves not to be sacked, even if his current performance screams he should. But does anybody here think he'd build a squad that could challenge for promotion next season?

The club needs restructuring from the ground up once again.

As true today as it was yesterday.

 

[City Fan]

Should have been sacked after the truly awful game at Southampton.

I never thought I'd be dreading going to Seville to watch Leicester play in the last 16 of the Champions League.

 

[londonfox]

Anybody who now thinks we shouldn't sack him is a moron. And if that's you then yes, you are a moron.

 

[FIF]

I can understand fans holding the faith and hope, its just I dont see any and in fact as each game goes, just erradicates a bit more, perhaps in the eyes of some that makes me a crap fan.

How would you describe the present attitude of the squad?

I'm not calling you or any others crap fans. I think nearly everyone here is a true fan.

I just don't see the point in getting so depressed and negative. While there's still a chance I'll believe that Leicester can take it and survive. I don't think we're one of the worst three squads in the prem. I don't believe CR is a bad manager. I don't think the owners are losers. I still believe we will turn things around.

 

[FIF]

Being knocked out of the FA Cup to a 10 man team in League One is shameful.

As is being knocked out by a non-league team.

but in the end 1 team wins the FA Cup and however you go out, you go out.

I remember Harlow. I remember Shrewsbury. We didn't win the cup either year.

 

[Polar Bear]

This post may seem pompous and/or sentimental. Fine, if you think that I'll not argue. It's probably over long. Never mind.

When we regained our top flight status two things appeared certain.

1. At some point, be that in 1 season, 2 seasons, (as seems increasingly likely) 3 seasons, or 33 seasons, we would be relegated from it again.
2. In the meantime, if we had a really good season, we might win a cup or two, qualify for Europe, maybe in our wildest dreams scrape qualification for the Champions League. But we'd never win the league. The days of clubs our size winning the league were long gone. 15-20 years ago we dubbed a manager 'O'God' because he won us two League Cups and took us to four straight top 10 finishes. The structural inequality between the big clubs and the rest has grown since then.

It's become fairly evident that CR doesn't really know how he managed the wildly implausible, but manage it he did, and that makes him our greatest manager, greater than Hodge, Orr, Gillies or O'Neill. In sport the difference between first and the rest is everything. It's quite possible that 'all' he had to do was keep everything steady while the momentum established in the great escape carried us along, but he did it.

Relegation would not be pretty, but we could live with it. It's nothing we've not seen before (see point 1 above). But to actually sack the miracle manager? To be the club that sacked its greatest manager less than a year after he did it? To me, that's the only thing that could truly taint last season.

Remember, there's a human element here. It's not a computer game. Do people think that, if sacked, CR would just shrug his shoulders, go "yeah, I'd lost it, see you later, no hard feelings"? He'd be gutted. He'd cry bitter tears, and so would I. And so, I think, would a lot of you.

And, in the future, do people think that any manager would ever think twice about leaving us for a better offer while the going was good? We'd forever be The Club That Sacked Its Hero Less Than A Season Later. It would be years before any manager would trust us, and quite rightly.

If you got this far, whether you agree or think I'm a hopelessly naive schmuck with too much time on my hands, thanks for reading. I think that sums up my thoughts.

*Note that none of the above precludes justified and severe criticism of the manager and team on message boards like this, or matchgoing supporters booing the feckless bastards, or any other reasonable expressions of discontent and frustration (or simply venting, for that matter). It should have been so much better. But I am really alarmed by increasing talk of sacking CR, not so much here, but in the national media. I really, really hope the owners pay all that precisely no heed. And that, should the worst come to the worst, we take our lumps and CR gets to step down with dignity, and we keep the love.

 

[camberwell fox]

This post may seem pompous and/or sentimental. Fine, if you think that I'll not argue. It's probably over long. Never mind.

When we regained our top flight status two things appeared certain.

1. At some point, be that in 1 season, 2 seasons, (as seems increasingly likely) 3 seasons, or 33 seasons, we would be relegated from it again.
2. In the meantime, if we had a really good season, we might win a cup or two, qualify for Europe, maybe in our wildest dreams scrape qualification for the Champions League. But we'd never win the league. The days of clubs our size winning the league were long gone. 15-20 years ago we dubbed a manager 'O'God' because he won us two League Cups and took us to four straight top 10 finishes. The structural inequality between the big clubs and the rest has grown since then.

It's become fairly evident that CR doesn't really know how he managed the wildly implausible, but manage it he did, and that makes him our greatest manager, greater than Hodge, Orr, Gillies or O'Neill. In sport the difference between first and the rest is everything. It's quite possible that 'all' he had to do was keep everything steady while the momentum established in the great escape carried us along, but he did it.

Relegation would not be pretty, but we could live with it. It's nothing we've not seen before (see point 1 above). But to actually sack the miracle manager? To be the club that sacked its greatest manager less than a year after he did it? To me, that's the only thing that could truly taint last season.

Remember, there's a human element here. It's not a computer game. Do people think that, if sacked, CR would just shrug his shoulders, go "yeah, I'd lost it, see you later, no hard feelings"? He'd be gutted. He'd cry bitter tears, and so would I. And so, I think, would a lot of you.

And, in the future, do people think that any manager would ever think twice about leaving us for a better offer while the going was good? We'd forever be The Club That Sacked Its Hero Less Than A Season Later. It would be years before any manager would trust us, and quite rightly.

If you got this far, whether you agree or think I'm a hopelessly naive schmuck with too much time on my hands, thanks for reading. I think that sums up my thoughts.

*Note that none of the above precludes justified and severe criticism of the manager and team on message boards like this, or matchgoing supporters booing the feckless bastards, or any other reasonable expressions of discontent and frustration (or simply venting, for that matter). It should have been so much better. But I am really alarmed by increasing talk of sacking CR, not so much here, but in the national media. I really, really hope the owners pay all that precisely no heed. And that, should the worst come to the worst, we take our lumps and CR gets to step down with dignity, and we keep the love.

Great post PB, my sentiments exactly.

 

[FIF]

I'm with you Polar Bear.

Winning isn't everything. For some of us.

 

[Micky]

This post may seem pompous and/or sentimental. Fine, if you think that I'll not argue. It's probably over long. Never mind.

When we regained our top flight status two things appeared certain.

1. At some point, be that in 1 season, 2 seasons, (as seems increasingly likely) 3 seasons, or 33 seasons, we would be relegated from it again.
2. In the meantime, if we had a really good season, we might win a cup or two, qualify for Europe, maybe in our wildest dreams scrape qualification for the Champions League. But we'd never win the league. The days of clubs our size winning the league were long gone. 15-20 years ago we dubbed a manager 'O'God' because he won us two League Cups and took us to four straight top 10 finishes. The structural inequality between the big clubs and the rest has grown since then.

It's become fairly evident that CR doesn't really know how he managed the wildly implausible, but manage it he did, and that makes him our greatest manager, greater than Hodge, Orr, Gillies or O'Neill. In sport the difference between first and the rest is everything. It's quite possible that 'all' he had to do was keep everything steady while the momentum established in the great escape carried us along, but he did it.

Relegation would not be pretty, but we could live with it. It's nothing we've not seen before (see point 1 above). But to actually sack the miracle manager? To be the club that sacked its greatest manager less than a year after he did it? To me, that's the only thing that could truly taint last season.

Remember, there's a human element here. It's not a computer game. Do people think that, if sacked, CR would just shrug his shoulders, go "yeah, I'd lost it, see you later, no hard feelings"? He'd be gutted. He'd cry bitter tears, and so would I. And so, I think, would a lot of you.

And, in the future, do people think that any manager would ever think twice about leaving us for a better offer while the going was good? We'd forever be The Club That Sacked Its Hero Less Than A Season Later. It would be years before any manager would trust us, and quite rightly.

If you got this far, whether you agree or think I'm a hopelessly naive schmuck with too much time on my hands, thanks for reading. I think that sums up my thoughts.

*Note that none of the above precludes justified and severe criticism of the manager and team on message boards like this, or matchgoing supporters booing the feckless bastards, or any other reasonable expressions of discontent and frustration (or simply venting, for that matter). It should have been so much better. But I am really alarmed by increasing talk of sacking CR, not so much here, but in the national media. I really, really hope the owners pay all that precisely no heed. And that, should the worst come to the worst, we take our lumps and CR gets to step down with dignity, and we keep the love.

You have just changed my thinking. I agree entirely. Let's ride out the storm with Claudio, however rocky it is.

 

[londonfox]

As is being knocked out by a non-league team..

Murder is bad. So is rape. What is your point?

 

[popillius]

I think we were favourites for relegation before Ranieri arrived. I think we were stronger favourites after he arrived, and Ranieri was favourite for first manager to be sacked.

Together they defied all the odds and achieved something remarkable.

Nobody thought it could be repeated.

Why do so many people think that breaking that bond and dumping the manager that helped that impossible event to occur will almost certainly ensure an improvement in our fortunes?

Teams and individuals have and keep great support teams. It does not mean they can always win or even come close every year.

I still believe that Ranieri is still the best manager to be at this club. I think anybody else would be a huge gamble and not in the long term interests of stability for the development of the club.

Arsenal have stuck with Wenger for 20 years and have had great successes along the way.

Ferguson was at Manchester United for at least 5 years before he won anything FFS.

What is this stupid mentality of 'sack the manager' if you lose three games in a row?

Some of the most successful clubs have opted for stability with their managers and been long-term winners as a result.

Is this serious? Who suggested we dispense with Ranieri 'after 3 losses in a row'? Who suggested that a change would 'guarantee' safety? This is made up nonsense. Regardless of us being favourites for relegation or Ranieri being favourite for the sack, you'd be completely stubborn to suggest that the 'band of brothers', winning mentality wasn't already in place well before his arrival. It most certainly was. Like I said before, he did very well to maintain this and it created the most memorable, wonderful moment in our history. His inability to create this such mentality rather than maintain it will create one of our most memorable moments once more; but for all the wrong reasons.

It's the nature of the last few losses that have made his position untennable not the fact we've lost a few games in a row. Losing to a League One outfit after one of the most horrendously inefficient league campaigns to date is simply not acceptable. It's a spiral of ineptitude that is getting steeper each game and it will culminate in our removal from this league.

When should we draw the line? Do you think Ranieri is the man to mount a promotion challenge when we do get relegated? Do you think he'll galvanize this squad ready for such a challenge? History suggests not. If we make the change now we may still go down but at least the new gaffer may have a chance at creating a mind set more becoming to mounting a promotion challenge or even scraping survival ready to build again next year.

 

[Mawsley]

(A)

It's become fairly evident that CR doesn't really know how he managed the wildly implausible

(B)

To be the club that sacked its greatest manager less than a year after he did it?

Hmm. I am struggling to connect those two positions.

 

[David Gwilliam]

I reckon Ranieri will be our manager next season. Now I'm thinking more of which players we'd offload/sell over the summer if we go down (note I'm still saying 'if' and not 'when'!)

There are players that it wouldn't concern me to lose (I'll not name names) but I'd be gutted if we lost Gray and/or Ndidi. And if we go down, I reckon they will go. From their perspective, it makes sense and there will be other teams interested.

Maybe we can do a job lot for some others, a kind of fitting BOGOF deal.

There are disturbing parallels between this thread and the current team. LondonFox claims anybody who disagrees with him is a moron while Fitz writes of Clownio.. They are our Vardy and Mahrez. Legends who have been brilliant in the past but are suddenly underperforming. When a team or thread is going badly it is interesting to notice who maintains high standards. So well done to Fif and to BrownNose.

I especially admired yackandandah's post He rightly sees the necessity for Claudio to make major changes in the summer whether we go down our not. I also picked him out ahead of good quotes from BrownNose and Fif because he is new to me and yet is outperforming famous names. I see him as the Demarai Grey of the forum - new but very promising.

 

[TornadoShaunUK]

For me one great achievement shouldn't make Ranieri sack-proof. I don't really see Ranieri as a potential long term manager, he's too old for that anyway IMO. The job here at present is to help establish Leicester as a top flight club and that to me means we should be looking at atleast mid table for a few seasons.

I've got this fecking weird feeling we're gonna get relegated, Ranieri will walk, we'll wind up with Pearson again after he's made up with the owners for dissing their fellow countryman/ sacking his son and there we are back in 2011 at square one

 

[Mawsley]

Holy ****. Gwilliam has gone full-on drugs. Shit is ****ed up.

 

[Blaarev]

This post may seem pompous and/or sentimental. Fine, if you think that I'll not argue. It's probably over long. Never mind.

When we regained our top flight status two things appeared certain.

1. At some point, be that in 1 season, 2 seasons, (as seems increasingly likely) 3 seasons, or 33 seasons, we would be relegated from it again.
2. In the meantime, if we had a really good season, we might win a cup or two, qualify for Europe, maybe in our wildest dreams scrape qualification for the Champions League. But we'd never win the league. The days of clubs our size winning the league were long gone. 15-20 years ago we dubbed a manager 'O'God' because he won us two League Cups and took us to four straight top 10 finishes. The structural inequality between the big clubs and the rest has grown since then.

It's become fairly evident that CR doesn't really know how he managed the wildly implausible, but manage it he did, and that makes him our greatest manager, greater than Hodge, Orr, Gillies or O'Neill. In sport the difference between first and the rest is everything. It's quite possible that 'all' he had to do was keep everything steady while the momentum established in the great escape carried us along, but he did it.

Relegation would not be pretty, but we could live with it. It's nothing we've not seen before (see point 1 above). But to actually sack the miracle manager? To be the club that sacked its greatest manager less than a year after he did it? To me, that's the only thing that could truly taint last season.

Remember, there's a human element here. It's not a computer game. Do people think that, if sacked, CR would just shrug his shoulders, go "yeah, I'd lost it, see you later, no hard feelings"? He'd be gutted. He'd cry bitter tears, and so would I. And so, I think, would a lot of you.

And, in the future, do people think that any manager would ever think twice about leaving us for a better offer while the going was good? We'd forever be The Club That Sacked Its Hero Less Than A Season Later. It would be years before any manager would trust us, and quite rightly.

If you got this far, whether you agree or think I'm a hopelessly naive schmuck with too much time on my hands, thanks for reading. I think that sums up my thoughts.

*Note that none of the above precludes justified and severe criticism of the manager and team on message boards like this, or matchgoing supporters booing the feckless bastards, or any other reasonable expressions of discontent and frustration (or simply venting, for that matter). It should have been so much better. But I am really alarmed by increasing talk of sacking CR, not so much here, but in the national media. I really, really hope the owners pay all that precisely no heed. And that, should the worst come to the worst, we take our lumps and CR gets to step down with dignity, and we keep the love.

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