Richard & Andy

[Durham Fox]

Someone at Sky really hates them both.

 

[Durham Fox]

Can I give the quick answer that few people on the forum use -
I really don't know.

At the time I felt it was necessary to sack him. He used a word that is arguably the most offensive in the English language. Feelings on racism were so strong that the story would not have gone away. There had been a sudden influx of black players - it is startling to remember that the great Bloomfield team was all white as were most other teams. You even had at one point the National Front claiming that goals scored for England by John Barnes did not count.

Do I believe Ron Atkinson has learned the lesson and should be back on TV. Yes.
I find him engaging and I want to hear from pundits who have been managers.

There is a major difference between public speech and private speech. I would argue that the sexist comments by Mike Newell for which he was not sacked were far more offensive than the comments by Grey and Keys. Newells comments aimed to stoke up criticism of female officials (all female officials not just the one at his match) among fans and were no doubt intended to be read by the female official involved.


My guess is that another parallel is with Rodney Marsh s controversial pundit but one I enjoyed. Marsh was employed partly for his expertise but also for his humour. He came out with a rather tasteless joke about David Beckham confusing the tsunami with the Toon Army and was sacked. My feeling then and now is that he had crossed someone in the nastiness that is the Murdoch Empire who saw a chance to be rid of him.

As for the latest comments about the attractiveness of the lineswoman. My first thought at the photo of her partying was "That is very nice" but then as Shakespeare said "Old men dream dreams."

That fecker didn't take long to work out.

 

[Jeff]

keys is next http://t.co/1LEUr3a

"This video is private.
Sorry about that."

 

[spionfox]

My first thought at the photo of her partying was "That is very nice" but then as Shakespeare said "Old men dream dreams."

Oh so very true :icon_bigg

 

[Profondo Rosso]

I really have no idea why people find listening to managers who go on about how working class they are like Ron Atkinson to be "engaging."

Honestly, give me an analysis by Jonathan Wilson, over some guy who makes "witty" remarks any day. I just want to hear genuinely interesting and thoughtful analysis from football pundits which give a good insight into the nuances of the game and I don't care how dry it is. I don't want some pundit good for wisecracks and lazy, clichéd comments about how "Rooney doesn't play as well on the wing as he does upfront" or some how "playing 4-3-3 leaves the attacker isolated."

 

[Durham Fox]

"This video is private.
Sorry about that."

Oh :icon_lol:

It basically shows Keys saying 'he'd hang out the back of that' and 'smash it to pieces' in reference to one of Jamie Redknapps ex girlfriends.

 

[homer]

Someone at Sky really hates them both.

Rule Number One: Don't feck with Murdoch

 

[spionfox]

Rule Number One: Don't feck with Murdoch

Unless your name is Wendi.

 

[Durham Fox]

Oh :icon_lol:

It basically shows Keys saying 'he'd hang out the back of that' and 'smash it to pieces' in reference to one of Jamie Redknapps ex girlfriends.

Not entirely accurate. He's saying he bet Jamie Redknapp did those things.

 

[Macky]

"This video is private.
Sorry about that."

They must've lied to you, it told me
"This video is no longer available because the uploader has closed their YouTube account.
Sorry about that."


hmmmmmm... maybe one of Murdoch's goons has to got to him

 

[Jeff]

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[Macky]

Even more Andy Gray revelations

 

[Graz]

I think in the true media tradition, this story should be called "Mass(de)Gate"

I think it's all a bit over the top.... although I only just found out about the "tuck my shirt in, love" bit... We've all done it though

 

[drummindefender]

I'll be gutted if Keys stays on. Dislike him a lot more than Gray

 

[lazzer]

Not entirely accurate. He's saying he bet Jamie Redknapp did those things.

No different to any conversation I hear regularly at work. Especially from the female contingent.

 

[Durham Fox]

No different to any conversation I hear regularly at work. Especially from the female contingent.

Totally agree, the whole thing is ridiculous.

 

[homer]

Totally agree, the whole thing is ridiculous.

The whole thing is set up

But it's got that fat jocko twat off the telly, so it's all turned out rather nicely

 

[Hazzman]

The whole thing is set up

But it's got that fat jocko twat off the telly, so it's all turned out rather nicely

Murdoch has pulled off a job and half here.

 

[lazzer]

The whole thing is set up

But it's got that fat jocko twat off the telly, so it's all turned out rather nicely

Totally agree. I got the feeling that some people were genuinely outraged by what had initially been said . But in the main most people were just happy to see them go due them being a pair of twats. I personally couldnt give a flying shite. Gray has had 19 years at around about a million a year so i wont be losing sleep over it. Would like to see Keys go as well mainly along with that bastard Beagrie.

 

[Mawsley]

Totally agree. I got the feeling that some people were genuinely outraged by what had initially been said .

That's because some people make it their mission to be outraged on a semi-professional basis...in the ridiculous belief that life should be akin to rolling in a sunny daisy field from birth till death.

They are wrong.

They are c****.