The Board

[bocadillo]

It's not the FT's role to pick the team

Is that the same as saying that the Foxes Trust has no opinion on whether the right people are being picked?

 

[Foxes_Trust]

Funny that - a similar question was asked about Bill Anderson earlier in the day.

That reference is funny too, one of the main reasons we started match reports on the Trust website was through BA's inability to criticise a players performance however bad he was.

We have one or two issues with updating our website at present, but when you read the match reports on there, the Trust Board does not edit in anyway & the reporter puts what they feel

 

[Foxes_Trust]

Is that the same as saying that the Foxes Trust has no opinion on whether the right people are being picked?

Individual board members have their views & can post them if they choose to under their own usernames, but the F_T username will not be used in that way

 

[PFKAKTF FOX]

It's not a party line, it's realism.

There seems to be a belief by some fans that there is a queue of potential buyers lined up, there isn't.

We know much of this is grasping at straws as it hurts us all watch poor performances.

The current board would look at serious offers & then the shareholders would decide, we know this because we have asked the direct question.

I dont agree, I think most fans acknowledge that there isn't an endless queue of potential investors, however I would not be surprised if any potential investors were put off ploughing money into the club at present bearing in mind the lack of progress we are currently experiencing off the field.

A couple of direct questions I would like answering :

1) Has anybody approached Martin George about returning to the club in a capacity that would allow him to drag the club out of it's current mess.

2) What has Jo Bucci done to justify her existance within the club bearing in mind the reason she was bought to the club and the apparent lack of commercial development since her appointment.

3) Why havent the club approached Kasabian about holding a gig or a number of gigs to help raise cash.

 

[PFKAKTF FOX]

What a surprise ask the FT a few difficult direct questions and they disappear, no doubt to ask Tim Davies permission on what responses to post.

One final question for the FT.

Was RK put on a rolling 12 month contract so that the board could actually allow for failure in their budget ???

 

[Redditch Fox]

The only way out for Mr Davies and co is to put the club up for sale, there is no way they will succeed. I've always been a believer that 'fans' owning clubs is a bad thing unless they have a major investment to make, as we all know Mr Davies recouped most of his investment during our relegation season in bonuses. Will he return the cash to solve our weakness down the left hand side? No.

I have no belief that the current regime will take us back to anywhere near where a city the size of ours demands.

The continuous half baked ideas about name changes, what should be played before kick-off, giving away flags, ground shares and failed concerts are a just a list of more embarrassments to add to the 'cheat' jibes which we suffered in our only successful season under them.

The only things certain about them is that they will let Kelly take the flak as they did with Adams and Levein.

Absolutely right!

The club is run on the wrong basis and that has been clear to me since administration. A board with no resources, just gimmicks, half baked stuff like the Foxes Trust purporting to represent fans and influence club policies and a bottom line that there is less ambition and clout than that possessed by the average budgie.

This is where we are and its leading to terminal decline.

Ask yourselves what is the club's main asset - its the fan base. Leicester City is potentially a decent, proud club. Tragically, there is no leadership whatsoever and money is thrown at silly salaries for people with no obviously useful role and shoddy PR stunts.

They should acknowledge that they are taking the club down the slippery slope and invite offers for the sale

 

[PFKAKTF FOX]

Absolutely right!

The club is run on the wrong basis and that has been clear to me since administration. A board with no resources, just gimmicks, half baked stuff like the Foxes Trust purporting to represent fans and influence club policies and a bottom line that there is less ambition and clout than that possessed by the average budgie.

This is where we are and its leading to terminal decline.

Ask yourselves what is the club's main asset - its the fan base. Leicester City is potentially a decent, proud club. Tragically, there is no leadership whatsoever and money is thrown at silly salaries for people with no obviously useful role and shoddy PR stunts.

They should acknowledge that they are taking the club down the slippery slope and invite offers for the sale

Great Post Redditch

 

[bocadillo]

That reference is funny too, one of the main reasons we started match reports on the Trust website was through BA's inability to criticise a players performance however bad he was.

We have one or two issues with updating our website at present, but when you read the match reports on there, the Trust Board does not edit in anyway & the reporter puts what they feel

So the Trust has issues regarding BA's reports, his unwillingness to criticise players, and presumably his unwillingness to be seen to be questioning the club. How does he differ from the Trust in this respect? It does seem to the unknowing bystander that the Trust is very much part of the establishment - very much part of the Club.

Why does the Trust hide behind the statement that the the reports/articles are an individual's personal opinion? Surely the Trust should have an opinion on these important matters.

 

[bocadillo]

Individual board members have their views & can post them if they choose to under their own usernames, but the F_T username will not be used in that way

You said that before. I don't think we are really that intested what individual members think. I think we are much more interested in what the Trust thinks. Otherwise our feeling that the Trust is nothing more than a part of the Club takes deeper root - a bit like our concerns about Bill Anderson, in fact.

 

[bocadillo]

Absolutely right!

The club is run on the wrong basis and that has been clear to me since administration. A board with no resources, just gimmicks, half baked stuff like the Foxes Trust purporting to represent fans and influence club policies and a bottom line that there is less ambition and clout than that possessed by the average budgie.

This is where we are and its leading to terminal decline.

Ask yourselves what is the club's main asset - its the fan base. Leicester City is potentially a decent, proud club. Tragically, there is no leadership whatsoever and money is thrown at silly salaries for people with no obviously useful role and shoddy PR stunts.

They should acknowledge that they are taking the club down the slippery slope and invite offers for the sale

Wow!! What more needs to be said!!

 

[newtonfox]

plus the trust is meant to be the voice of the fans when by the looks of things it the voice of the club or should i say its the voice of the people running the club sounds very 2 faced to me .

very good post RF lets see what they say if anything

 

[Foxes_Trust]

That reference is funny too, one of the main reasons we started match reports on the Trust website was through BA's inability to criticise a players performance however bad he was.

We have one or two issues with updating our website at present, but when you read the match reports on there, the Trust Board does not edit in anyway & the reporter puts what they feel

As you can see from the Burnley report

http://www.foxestrust.com/html/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=628

 

[Foxes_Trust]

yeah but £300 wont help much :icon_lol:

£21k last year, probably £15k this year

 

[Foxes_Trust]

Thanks FT. Do you think that has prevented any existing shareholders investing over and above the cap? Would there ever be the chance for the cap to be removed but continue with the current style of management?

I'm an aspiring millionaire you see.

No, any of the shareholders could invest more at present, about 3 of them would be limited to a further circa £100k before hitting the limit.

The shareholders would have to vote to change the articles of association, so would need to be given a strong case for doing so.

So when can you invest your first £500k then drew?

 

[Foxes_Trust]

I dont agree, I think most fans acknowledge that there isn't an endless queue of potential investors, however I would not be surprised if any potential investors were put off ploughing money into the club at present bearing in mind the lack of progress we are currently experiencing off the field.

A couple of direct questions I would like answering :

1) Has anybody approached Martin George about returning to the club in a capacity that would allow him to drag the club out of it's current mess.

2) What has Jo Bucci done to justify her existance within the club bearing in mind the reason she was bought to the club and the apparent lack of commercial development since her appointment.

3) Why havent the club approached Kasabian about holding a gig or a number of gigs to help raise cash.

What a surprise ask the FT a few difficult direct questions and they disappear, no doubt to ask Tim Davies permission on what responses to post.

One final question for the FT.

Was RK put on a rolling 12 month contract so that the board could actually allow for failure in their budget ???

Oi - we aren't on here 24/7 & have other things to do with our lives.

If you get like that so quickly I will start ignoring your questions, mate!

1) Don't believe so, next time he is in the Directors Lounge & I'm there I will ask the direct question to him, as it keeps popping up on message boards.

2) Every FT board member who has had direct contact with Jo Bucci has come back with a favourable impression of her. She has identifed a number of areas of commercial activity that needs attention, but not all of those can be delivered within weeks or even months.
There are certain commercial deals where she has significantly increased revenue to the club, but we can't go into details through confidentiality issues.

3) Pop concerts are not a priority, see the Andrew Taylor Q & A

4) The trend in football is to go for rolling 12 month contracts now. It means there is a known cost of 'getting rid' of a manager (his annual salary), certainly be much cheaper then removing CL & his team was.

 

[drew]

I dunno, but if i am in the position to do so and it doesn't affect my future i will.

Will you take a post dated cheque?

If a rich benefactor wants to take over, will they be expected to pay the shareholders the original buy in value?

 

[Foxes_Trust]

Absolutely right!

The club is run on the wrong basis and that has been clear to me since administration. A board with no resources, just gimmicks, half baked stuff like the Foxes Trust purporting to represent fans and influence club policies and a bottom line that there is less ambition and clout than that possessed by the average budgie.

This is where we are and its leading to terminal decline.

Ask yourselves what is the club's main asset - its the fan base. Leicester City is potentially a decent, proud club. Tragically, there is no leadership whatsoever and money is thrown at silly salaries for people with no obviously useful role and shoddy PR stunts.

They should acknowledge that they are taking the club down the slippery slope and invite offers for the sale

So it's most important asset is its fan base, but the largest LCFC fans organisation (ran democratically) is half baked - that doesn't make sense

 

[Foxes_Trust]

So the Trust has issues regarding BA's reports, his unwillingness to criticise players, and presumably his unwillingness to be seen to be questioning the club. How does he differ from the Trust in this respect? It does seem to the unknowing bystander that the Trust is very much part of the establishment - very much part of the Club.

Why does the Trust hide behind the statement that the the reports/articles are an individual's personal opinion? Surely the Trust should have an opinion on these important matters.

No - the Trust's role is not to say X player was crap today, where in our aims does it say that?

By letting individual members post their own match thoughts it provides real fans the ability to give their considered thoughts, rather than a journo who has to worry about his next player interview

We aim to work with the club yes and our criticisms are given directly to those that run it, not be being popularist & spouting off on message boards & in press releases. If the club fail to listen, then we will do this, as with the one year kit deal

 

[Foxes_Trust]

You said that before. I don't think we are really that intested what individual members think. I think we are much more interested in what the Trust thinks. Otherwise our feeling that the Trust is nothing more than a part of the Club takes deeper root - a bit like our concerns about Bill Anderson, in fact.

The Trust does give views on a wide range of issues, but not individual players performance, it's not what we exist to do.

 

[bocadillo]

So it's most important asset is its fan base, but the largest LCFC fans organisation (ran democratically) is half baked - that doesn't make sense

No, It doesn't, does it? So why is it so?