The Board

[maffyou]

It isn't- if fans don't like the way the Trust is ran, they should join it, stand for election & then actively change things.

But they won't, because it's easier to slag off on message boards than actually do something constructive.

Very happy for critical posters on here to prove me wrong

Join now for starters
http://www.foxestrust.com/join/joinwp.htm

my dad is a member of the foxes trust and has never been consulted on anything. my guess is your average FT member has the same influence over the running of LCFC that your average Labour party member has over the running of the country.

 

[Redditch Fox]

So it's most important asset is its fan base, but the largest LCFC fans organisation (ran democratically) is half baked - that doesn't make sense

I think that you are deliberately evading the issues.

You may get a kick out of deluding yourselves that you are a key part of a democratically run organisation.

I would say that most supporters are not bothered about how democratic the FT is or how participatory are the practices of LCFC. What, I think, most supporters want is a football team to be proud of. The whole set up and culture at the Walkers is wrong. Gimmicks rule and are the stock in trade of a board with no clout and the FT are merely hangers-on. We have discussed before the inhibition to investment by any party or parties that might be able to restore the club to where it should be most notably the misguided rule preventing a 'take over'. What is actually needed is a take over and although it may not be feasible to attract an investor(s) with real resources, any barriers to this should be removed.

All that the board have delivered and the likes of the FT have effectively supported is a squad that is not fit for purpose. 93 minutes of misery on Tuesday night should have told everyone that this set up is going nowhere but down.

 

[maffyou]

First home game of the season was the ideal opportunity, night match in the school holidays why didnt the board slash the prices to attract a decent gate with the emphasis on trying to attract fans to enjoy the match day experience and with this in mind attract a proportion of these fans to commit to season tickets.

to be fair though, who, watching that game would have been attracted to buy a season ticket? things need to improve on the pitch, thats the only way new supporters will be attracted. ie INVEST IN SOME PLAYERS!

 

[Redditch Fox]

Its all so easy to blame the board like people do. But the crux of the matter is we do blame the board in bad times. Money, albeit a small amount, was given to RK and he got 4 players in.
We would not be blaming the board now if we were sitting pretty joint top with 6 points. The reason we have zero points and no goals is purely down to the playing staff and nobody else. FFS this same bunch of players played promotion grade football in the last half of the season to keep us up, so what the feck has gone wrong? Teams like Luton and Burnley didnt spend a lot either in the close season but they looked leaner and faster than us.

The problem is the attitude of the team at the moment and nothing else.........Until this is sorted we are in the shit

Good points here.

But I suspect that there was a burst of adrenelin from the departure of Levein and the effects look like they were short term.

Also, we haven't had any real quality players for a bit now, but I think Joey was our most important player and the already weak midfield seems to have collapsed without him.

Finally, I can't remember any LCFC team looking worse prepared for a season.

Ultimately the board has to take responsibility and is accountable....and they don't appear to be up to it.

 

[PFKAKTF FOX]

to be fair though, who, watching that game would have been attracted to buy a season ticket? things need to improve on the pitch, thats the only way new supporters will be attracted. ie INVEST IN SOME PLAYERS!

I agree but there was still an opportunity missed to attract a crowd of circa 25k for the first home game, just by introducing some innovation to the pricing policy.

Also there are numerous ways of developing customer loyalty. Some fans are unprepared to purchase season tickets, because of expense but maybe the club can introduce monthly loyalty schemes where fans can purchase home tickets as a batch for the forthcoming month's fixtures but recieve a discount that way the club are rewarding fans for loyalty but in the event of a poor performance still have the benefit that tickets will have already been sold in advance for remaining fixtures in that period.

Or maybe introduce a loyalty scheme where each fan has a card and each time they purchase a ticket it is stamped and every 5th game they attend they recieve a discount voucher to the next designated "fans fixture" which would be pre selected designated fixtures against less attractive opposition, for example and no disrespect but clubs such as Southend, Colchester, Barnsley etc.

 

[maffyou]

Also there are numerous ways of developing customer loyalty. Some fans are unprepared to purchase season tickets, because of expense but maybe the club can introduce monthly loyalty schemes where fans can purchase home tickets as a batch for the forthcoming month's fixtures but recieve a discount that way the club are rewarding fans for loyalty but in the event of a poor performance still have the benefit that tickets will have already been sold in advance for remaining fixtures in that period.

I can see your point but I dont think the way to build long-term customer loyalty is to try and sucker people in. If you buy a ticket to 5 games and the first two are crap but you still have to go and watch 3 more, which are just as crap you're unlikely to become a 'returning customer'. You're more likely to wonder why you bothered and stay away in future.

Football is not like other business in that the product is not homogenous. You cant simply rely on finding a market for the product, the market is already there, you have to put priority on making sure that the product is upto the expectations of the consumer. Maybe thats what Ronald McDonald doesnt realise.

 

[PFKAKTF FOX]

I can see your point but I dont think the way to build long-term customer loyalty is to try and sucker people in. If you buy a ticket to 5 games and the first two are crap but you still have to go and watch 3 more, which are just as crap you're unlikely to become a 'returning customer'. You're more likely to wonder why you bothered and stay away in future.

Football is not like other business in that the product is not homogenous. You cant simply rely on finding a market for the product, the market is already there, you have to put priority on making sure that the product is upto the expectations of the consumer. Maybe thats what Ronald McDonald doesnt realise.

But that is exactly what the club do to season ticket holders, one crap game in and I have still committed to a further 22 matches. So I don't think your argument holds much weight. What my idea offers is the fans opportunity to commit to the club but on a much smaller scale than a season ticket holder, but by still offering some benefit.

 

[BOB HAZELL]

1) Has anybody approached Martin George about returning to the club in a capacity that would allow him to drag the club out of it's current mess.

2) What has Jo Bucci done to justify her existance within the club bearing in mind the reason she was bought to the club and the apparent lack of commercial development since her appointment.

3) Why havent the club approached Kasabian about holding a gig or a number of gigs to help raise cash.

Answers

1. Has been discussed, but doesn't appear to be favoured by key personnel within the inner circle.
2. I'd love to know the clubs' "official" response to this.
3. It was the other way round - the club declined the offer.

 

[BOB HAZELL]

Absolutely right!

The club is run on the wrong basis and that has been clear to me since administration. A board with no resources, just gimmicks, half baked stuff like the Foxes Trust purporting to represent fans and influence club policies and a bottom line that there is less ambition and clout than that possessed by the average budgie.

This is where we are and its leading to terminal decline.

Ask yourselves what is the club's main asset - its the fan base. Leicester City is potentially a decent, proud club. Tragically, there is no leadership whatsoever and money is thrown at silly salaries for people with no obviously useful role and shoddy PR stunts.

They should acknowledge that they are taking the club down the slippery slope and invite offers for the sale

As ever, quality RF.......

 

[BOB HAZELL]

Oh,FFS. Would you have suggested that Churchill should have become a Nazi and tried to work for change?
?

Never have I laughed so much at any one post on this forum in around 3 years....

Brilliant stuff Boc. Got my vote for post of the decade.

 

[Ox Fox]

Could the Trust or anyone tell me if someone did have say £1m going begging what would they get for their money by investing at LCFC? Would they have any influence on the organisation of the club at all, could they say they want to see new players bought with a proportion of their investment for instance?

 

[Boy Genius]

Could the Trust or anyone tell me if someone did have say £1m going begging what would they get for their money by investing at LCFC? Would they have any influence on the organisation of the club at all, could they say they want to see new players bought with a proportion of their investment for instance?

I dont think you can look at "investing" in any football club.... once the money leaves you thats the last you see of it

 

[PFKAKTF FOX]

Answers

1. Has been discussed, but doesn't appear to be favoured by key personnel within the inner circle.
2. I'd love to know the clubs' "official" response to this.
3. It was the other way round - the club declined the offer.

1. Seems a rather negative attitude to have bearing in mind his experience.

2. You obviously know more than you are letting on.

3. I knew this was the case as per your previous post, but was interested to see the clubs / FT response.

 

[maffyou]

But that is exactly what the club do to season ticket holders, one crap game in and I have still committed to a further 22 matches. So I don't think your argument holds much weight. What my idea offers is the fans opportunity to commit to the club but on a much smaller scale than a season ticket holder, but by still offering some benefit.

I think that marketing schemes like the one you're suggesting are a good idea but only when backed up by something that will keep people wanting to come back. I agree in principle with what you're saying because its certainly true that the club are abusing the loyalty of the few that still have it (ie the one year shirt thing). My point is that we dont have the luxury to act as Manure or Arse do, as a corporation as those teams have 3 or 4 people waiting in the background for every person that goes to watch them. The reason for this is that they have a team that people want to watch!

My first game at Filbert Street was intoxicating in a way I cant really describe and I just dont think any kid going to watch us now would have that same feeling. The team needs fixing first, then lets look at ticket price structures, etc.

 

[Ox Fox]

I dont think you can look at "investing" in any football club.... once the money leaves you thats the last you see of it

OK "investment" is a poor choice of words in relation to football, but you get the gist :icon_roll

 

[Boy Genius]

OK "investment" is a poor choice of words in relation to football, but you get the gist :icon_roll

:icon_bigg

 

[1966]

It seems to me we are arguing about the wrong issue.

The current squad has been assembeld at a greater cost than the majority of others in the division and the ongoing salary cost is larger than most in the division.

For me the major issue is why can't we put out a team that can play better and achieve better results than those who have and continue to spend less than we do.

 

[Boy Genius]

It seems to me we are arguing about the wrong issue.

The current squad has been assembeld at a greater cost than the majority of others in the division and the ongoing salary cost is larger than most in the division.

For me the major issue is why can't we put out a team that can play better and achieve better results than those who have and continue to spend less than we do.

EXACTLY!

why can't the teams we put out play up to their potential, rather than playing the dross they have.

Someone said we looked better in the last 15 mins against Burnley, but was that not due to the fact Burnley were quite happy to let city come at them, see out the last quarter and pick up all 3 points?

 

[blue]

Could the Trust or anyone tell me if someone did have say £1m going begging what would they get for their money by investing at LCFC? Would they have any influence on the organisation of the club at all, could they say they want to see new players bought with a proportion of their investment for instance?

For a £1m you would be able to negotiate the purchase of share capital from either a current shareholder or for the club to consider the issuance of new capital.

For that sort of figure you could most likely place a condition of your "donation / investment" that it comes with a seat on the Board or one of the VP positions if thats what you wanted.

Do you think you know somebody

 

[mitcho_uk]

I dont think you can look at "investing" in any football club.... once the money leaves you thats the last you see of it

Exactly.

You will never make any money by investing in a football club. Its ok asking for the board to go but unless you find someone who is willing to give there money away we have little or no choice but to accept what we have.

Does anyone have Tim Davies' or Andrew Taylors email address. PM if you have please