The Board

[Foxes_Trust]

I dunno, but if i am in the position to do so and it doesn't affect my future i will.

Will you take a post dated cheque?

If a rich benefactor wants to take over, will they be expected to pay the shareholders the original buy in value?

That's for the existing shareholders to decide, it would be discussed if the situation arises

 

[Foxes_Trust]

No, It doesn't, does it? So why is it so?

It isn't- if fans don't like the way the Trust is ran, they should join it, stand for election & then actively change things.

But they won't, because it's easier to slag off on message boards than actually do something constructive.

Very happy for critical posters on here to prove me wrong

Join now for starters
http://www.foxestrust.com/join/joinwp.htm

 

[bocadillo]

The Trust does give views on a wide range of issues, but not individual players performance, it's not what we exist to do.

Please excuse me. I thought it was you who said the the Trust was not happy with Bill Anderson's offerings. Is that something that you exist to do? Is it one of your stated aims?

It seems odd that the Trust can say that it's not happy with what Bill Anderson says or doesn't say but sees fit to keep silent on the subject itself.

 

[newtonfox]

which member of the trust is logged in now ???? as your replays seem to to differ every time you post back

 

[Foxes_Trust]

Please excuse me. I thought it was you who said the the Trust was not happy with Bill Anderson's offerings. Is that something that you exist to do? Is it one of your stated aims?

It seems odd that the Trust can say that it's not happy with what Bill Anderson says or doesn't say but sees fit to keep silent on the subject itself.

No it isn't an aim, I was just providing background as to why we started the match reports in the first place, it's unusual for a Trust to do this, have a look at the other Trust sites
http://www.supporters-direct.org/englandwales/links.htm

So we offered the chance to members to do reports, which a team of them do

 

[Foxes_Trust]

which member of the trust is logged in now ???? as your replays seem to to differ every time you post back

because we are answering different questions?

Look before somebody moans about us dis-appearing again, I need some sleep, so this is the final post tonight

 

[bocadillo]

If a rich benefactor wants to take over, will they be expected to pay the shareholders the original buy in value?

Why would you think that? The shares are worth whatever they are worth and that is the price that would have to be paid for them.

 

[bocadillo]

It isn't- if fans don't like the way the Trust is ran, they should join it, stand for election & then actively change things.

But they won't, because it's easier to slag off on message boards than actually do something constructive.

Very happy for critical posters on here to prove me wrong

Join now for starters
http://www.foxestrust.com/join/joinwp.htm

Oh,FFS. Would you have suggested that Churchill should have become a Nazi and tried to work for change?

Why would I want to invest even a small part of my pension so that the Foxes Trust can invest it for their own glorification?

 

[newtonfox]

It isn't- if fans don't like the way the Trust is ran, they should join it, stand for election & then actively change things.

But they won't, because it's easier to slag off on message boards than actually do something constructive.

Very happy for critical posters on here to prove me wrong

Join now for starters
http://www.foxestrust.com/join/joinwp.htm

trying swell numbers again :icon_roll

its not the way the trust is ran its the way you come over as if your god that what alot of people dont like you go onto forums trying to get members to join FFS ,my fathers family has been on the board of directors at LCFC now for more than 20 years im not going to name there names as its up to them not me

you do piss alot of people off me included

I'm not pulling my own strings or anything Ive never posted about my family connections at the club before and i will not talk about them again ,they are there and have been for a long time now,end of

 

[newtonfox]

because we are answering different questions?

Look before somebody moans about us dis-appearing again, I need some sleep, so this is the final post tonight

so one member for each questions this gets better

 

[newtonfox]

Oh,FFS. Would you have suggested that Churchill should have become a Nazi and tried to work for change?

Why would I want to invest even a small part of my pension so that the Foxes Trust can invest it for their own glorification?

well said

 

[chappyblue]

At the end of the day our Board is shite ,no ambition. all it is to them is a
business. I thought it was about football, but all it seems to be about these days is balancing the books.In my mind the board dont give 2 f*"ks about this club.

 

[Fox Fan]

Ox
- Jo Bucci's holidays have to avoid clashing with the Chief Exec's & Chairmans, and she was back at work this week, this is a non-issue

I heard from inside the club that Jo was actually appointed by Teachers, who own the ground, to oversee the running of the club. She was not wanted by TD or Jim Machill as i understood it.

 

[maffyou]

Its quite depressing when you see Smith going to Derby for 300k and we didnt even have that. It seems that the board are very reactionary in the way they dish money out, why did we pay 300k odd on Gilbert last year knowing that we would be without a parachute payment this year and without (it seems) asking the right questions of Levein regarding how well he knew the player?

What seems to be lacking from the team is a little bit of flair and we cant even stump up a measley sum like 300k for it. I remember Levein saying that everything at the club is budgeted on a 'worst case scenario' and unfortunatley I think that may end up being a self fulfilling prophecy.

 

[Boy Genius]

I heard from inside the club that Jo was actually appointed by Teachers, who own the ground, to oversee the running of the club. She was not wanted by TD or Jim Machill as i understood it.

some people fill you full of shite and you don't realise it.....:icon_roll

 

[Boy Genius]

Its all so easy to blame the board like people do. But the crux of the matter is we do blame the board in bad times. Money, albeit a small amount, was given to RK and he got 4 players in.
We would not be blaming the board now if we were sitting pretty joint top with 6 points. The reason we have zero points and no goals is purely down to the playing staff and nobody else. FFS this same bunch of players played promotion grade football in the last half of the season to keep us up, so what the feck has gone wrong? Teams like Luton and Burnley didnt spend a lot either in the close season but they looked leaner and faster than us.

The problem is the attitude of the team at the moment and nothing else.........Until this is sorted we are in the shit

 

[DesertFox]

It isn't- if fans don't like the way the Trust is ran, they should join it, stand for election & then actively change things.

But they won't, because it's easier to slag off on message boards than actually do something constructive.

Very happy for critical posters on here to prove me wrong

Join now for starters
http://www.foxestrust.com/join/joinwp.htm

TBH I'm neither particularly for the Trust or anti the Trust, but I know how you feel. I've done my share of voluntary/charity/committee/getting involved type things, and it only takes a few brief moments before people start sniping randomly from the sidelines. The favorites are:

"you're incompetent"
"you like the sound of your own voice"
"well, you only do it for the *** (pervcieved benefit)"

99% of these comments are absolute bullshit. :icon_roll

So my advice to those who a) think they can do a better job and b) claim to care enough would be c) go and do the fecker yourselves!

Go on, do it - spend your own precious free time working for the benefit or others because it's a cause you're passionate about, whilst said others are off down the pub making snide remarks. I can guarantee you, you'll never make these kind of comments again. You'll soon be thinking "what a bunch of ungrateful c**ts." I know I did, and these were people I actually liked only a few weeks before I started.

Whether they do a good job or not is not for me to say, but fair play to everyone at the Trust - you care enough about LCFC to actively get involved, and for that I respect you.

So I say: Give the Trust a break - THEY ARE TRYING TO HELP - shit, they actually are helping!

Here's an interesting idea: when you reply saying "well I think they're doing a crap job, and they should have done this, and they should have done that"... just pop a little line at the bottom of the post to say exactly how YOU help LCFC, above and beyond the usual pathetic cop out of "I'm a paying customer, so I can say and do whatever I want".

Go on, dares you, you bunch of work-shy ingrates! :icon_wink

 

[PFKAKTF FOX]

Oi - we aren't on here 24/7 & have other things to do with our lives.

If you get like that so quickly I will start ignoring your questions, mate!

1) Don't believe so, next time he is in the Directors Lounge & I'm there I will ask the direct question to him, as it keeps popping up on message boards.

2) Every FT board member who has had direct contact with Jo Bucci has come back with a favourable impression of her. She has identifed a number of areas of commercial activity that needs attention, but not all of those can be delivered within weeks or even months.
There are certain commercial deals where she has significantly increased revenue to the club, but we can't go into details through confidentiality issues.

3) Pop concerts are not a priority, see the Andrew Taylor Q & A

4) The trend in football is to go for rolling 12 month contracts now. It means there is a known cost of 'getting rid' of a manager (his annual salary), certainly be much cheaper then removing CL & his team was.

Thanks for the reply

1) Do you think he is really going to answer a direct question like that. My question was more aimed at whether the board have asked him to become more actively involved in the day to day running of the club, if they haven't, then why not, he has a wealth of experience and I am sure would add value.

2) Fair enough, however surely the best way to judge Miss Bucci is by her actions and results not based on impressions gleamed from a quick chat. Craig Levein could talk a good game. My concern is that the main source of revenue will always be match day and whilst she may well be busy concentrating on the corporate side of the business, it would be prudent to remind her that surely the main target should be to maximise match day income by attracting back the crowds. I have seen nothing in the way of innovative ideas in pricing or initiatives and she has been here now for over 8 months. Lets not get too carried away.

3) Surely the priority is too maximise revenue, and if that means staging concerts especially ones that include a band with the popularity of Kasabian (who are indeed City fans, and I believe offered to stage a gig for free) then this opportunity must be explored.

4) I understand the reasoning, but as my question asks whether this has enabled the club to budget for failure.

I have actually joined the Trust quite recently and I have been a litle disappointed that all I have recieved has been certificate, but nothing in the way of correspondance enabling me to become more actively involved.

 

[maffyou]

Its all so easy to blame the board like people do. But the crux of the matter is we do blame the board in bad times. Money, albeit a small amount, was given to RK and he got 4 players in.
We would not be blaming the board now if we were sitting pretty joint top with 6 points. The reason we have zero points and no goals is purely down to the playing staff and nobody else. FFS this same bunch of players played promotion grade football in the last half of the season to keep us up, so what the feck has gone wrong? Teams like Luton and Burnley didnt spend a lot either in the close season but they looked leaner and faster than us.

The problem is the attitude of the team at the moment and nothing else.........Until this is sorted we are in the shit

the fact is though that other teams have spent money where we havent. other teams have improved and we are still where we were. for a club the size of ours to have almost no money to spend is ridiculous. where the very little that we have spent has gone (centre halves, where we already had more than enough cover) is another matter.

The board have been unambitous and this is the first time i can remember in my time supporting the club that we have not spent a transfer fee on a single player over the summer.

 

[PFKAKTF FOX]

Its all so easy to blame the board like people do. But the crux of the matter is we do blame the board in bad times. Money, albeit a small amount, was given to RK and he got 4 players in.
We would not be blaming the board now if we were sitting pretty joint top with 6 points. The reason we have zero points and no goals is purely down to the playing staff and nobody else. FFS this same bunch of players played promotion grade football in the last half of the season to keep us up, so what the feck has gone wrong? Teams like Luton and Burnley didnt spend a lot either in the close season but they looked leaner and faster than us.

The problem is the attitude of the team at the moment and nothing else.........Until this is sorted we are in the shit

I agree to an extent, the truth is at present we are shambles on and off the pitch, my criticism is not about money made available to RK or that the board are to be held responsible for our current poor form, however the off field management has undertaken a fair amount of restructuring over the last few months, my concern is that we have little or no experience in the football industry.

I have seen little in the way of commercial initative or enterprise, to me it looks like the same old gimmicks are being rolled out. We lack creativity on and off the pitch. Football is all about innovation, and I am afraid we seem to be going through the motions. The matchday pricing policys need addressing and some new ideas to attract and maintain the floating supporters interest need to be introduced.

First home game of the season was the ideal opportunity, night match in the school holidays why didnt the board slash the prices to attract a decent gate with the emphasis on trying to attract fans to enjoy the match day experience and with this in mind attract a proportion of these fans to commit to season tickets. At present we are getting to a level where the only fans in the stadium will be the die hards. To develop and progress we have to attract the fans who are currently staying away and at present I am seeing nothing in terms of actions from the board to remedy this except cheap gimmicks.