Training ground rumour

[Polar Bear]

It's all a trade off isn't it? We all know the midfield desperately needs strengthening, if that means selling one of our decent defenders and re-investing the money elsewhere I for one don't have a problem with that.

 

[Naughty Fox]

We have to remember that this is just somebodies 'rumour' and has no evidence to back it up, so chill your beans guys (and dolls).
RK is bright enough to see that the midfield is an area that needs attention and has said this in interviews. Gerrbrand has also been quoted as saying he is happy to stay and fight for his place. IMO he has looked a very good player, what he does lack is matches and we were saying the same about Paddy at the start of the season. If he did go we would get a fee and with the amount of work we did to get him I doubt it would be less than we signed him for.
Most report today have stated the bloody obvious that we will not have much if any money over the summer and RK himself has said there will not be many changes, but the midfield is the priority.

 

[SilverFox]

It's all a trade off isn't it? We all know the midfield desperately needs strengthening, if that means selling one of our decent defenders and re-investing the money elsewhere I for one don't have a problem with that.

I do!

We have only just got the defence sorted, and anyone worth their salt will tell you that if you are going to build a team you start by building from the back.

Sylla has a reputation in Scotland, and there was talk mid season of Hearts being interested. Equally Rab has a reasonable reputation up there. Lets start by sheding some of the dead wood and actually make a decent go of it next year.

 

[Naughty Fox]

I do!

We have only just got the defence sorted, and anyone worth their salt will tell you that if you are going to build a team you start by building from the back.

Sylla has a reputation in Scotland, and there was talk mid season of Hearts being interested. Equally Rab has a reasonable reputation up there. Lets start by sheding some of the dead wood and actually make a decent go of it next year.

Agreed!!

 

[SilverFox]

Agreed!!

Paddy and Paddy for me are the most settled we have been at the back since Elliott and Taggart played as a regular partnership. To break that up now would be really dumb.

 

[PFKAKTF FOX]

IMO if we were to sacrifice a defender, I would think the most likely casualties would be either Gerrbrand or Maybury, both would command a fee.

Also Gerrbrand appears to be a defender that RK has doubts about, he is a good reader of the game and is fairly good in possession, but does struggle with the more physical aspects of the Championship, also under Kelly we have looked more vunerable defensively and have conceeded more goals when Gerrbrand has been playing.

IMO Kelly will move him on, probably back to a Swedish team and recoup a sizeable chunk of the fee and go for a more reliable 'British type' centre half.

 

[Naughty Fox]

IMO if we were to sacrifice a defender, I would think the most likely casualties would be either Gerrbrand or Maybury, both would command a fee.

Also Gerrbrand appears to be a defender that RK has doubts about, he is a good reader of the game and is fairly good in possession, but does struggle with the more physical aspects of the Championship, also under Kelly we have looked more vunerable defensively and have conceeded more goals when Gerrbrand has been playing.

IMO Kelly will move him on, probably back to a Swedish team and recoup a sizeable chunk of the fee and go for a more reliable 'British type' centre half.

As I said though PF he needs games under his belt, IMO the quality is there to see. This might be a stupid suggestion, but why not play him as the defensive midfielder, Kisnorbo was struggling with the passing side, but gets stuck in suited to the defense, Gerrbrand seems to be the opposite as he can pass the ball but not so physical, just a thought.

 

[Feriol]

Paddy and Paddy for me are the most settled we have been at the back since Elliott and Taggart played as a regular partnership. To break that up now would be really dumb.

I would extend that to Stearman and Nissa.

I know many will disagree about Nissa but i feel he is very solid, and has been important to us. With a Decent left winger in front of him i would be quite happy. It is the weakest link in the back four, but as good as we could expect IMO.

If Brevett is the sort of player we are looking at i think we are just as well sticking with Nissa.

 

[Polar Bear]

My point was really that, having four reasonable central defenders (I feel Gerrbrand will turn out to be quality if given a run, he has had a very interrupted time thus far) we could afford to sacrifice one if it meant bringing in two decent midfielders with the money. I would be pleased to see the back of Douglas and Sylla but can't imagine Hearts or anyone else giving us money, a free to get them off the wage bill is the best we could hope for. I think this is the reality of the situation.

 

[Martyn]

I agree with Polar Bear to an extent. I can't help but feel Gerrbrand would turn into a quality player if he worked on his strength and had more time to adjust to England. It's clear he's a talented ball player and thew sort of player we should look to retain if we want to move forwards.

 

[PFKAKTF FOX]

Just a thought but if funds are so limited and we are restricted to what we can do, how about this as a formation and line up using the existing squad.

Henderson

McCarthy
Kisnorbo
Johansson

Stearman
Hughes
Weso
Williams
Sheehan

Hume
Fryatt

With that team and formation, we would possibly need another left wing back and a central midfielder and possibly if funds allowed a goalkeeper.

Cover would come as follows :

GK - Douglas / Logan
RWB - Maybury / Sylla
LWB - New Signing / Tiatto (If he stays) / Hamill (?)
CB - Gerrbrand / Stearman
CM - New Signing / Stearman (Poss Def Mid) / Maybury (Poss Def Mid)
CF - O'Grady / Hammond / Chambers / Dodds

This is without allowing for any new signings and apart from the Left wing back berth and additional options in central midfield we dont look too lightweight, plus RK may well be able to wheel and deal in a couple of positions which may allow further strengthening.

 

[PONTUS KAAMARK]

I think 3-5-2 went out with MON. I dont think its a viable option anymore and only one person can decide what formation we choose.

 

[PFKAKTF FOX]

It is a viable option when your squad does not contain one decent winger and you dont have a pot to piss in, so it means we have to cut our cloth and try to make the most out of the assets we do have.

Squad wise we have a fairly decent spine and I would say that with the right tactics we have a very strong centre to our team. We have decent centre halfs in the two Paddys and Nissa is certainly no slouch, whilst in midfield Hughesy, Weso and Williams would be as good a central midfield as most in this division.

Football isnt about fashionable formations, it is about picking your best team and the formation and tactics that get the maximum effect. I am merely offering an opinion, it is blatantly obvious that we are desperately short of quality wingers and that we will not have the funds to fill these gaps, so why not make best use of the resources available.

 

[MHS]

It is a viable option when your squad does not contain one decent winger and you dont have a pot to piss in, so it means we have to cut our cloth and try to make the most out of the assets we do have.

Squad wise we have a fairly decent spine and I would say that with the right tactics we have a very strong centre to our team. We have decent centre halfs in the two Paddys and Nissa is certainly no slouch, whilst in midfield Hughesy, Weso and Williams would be as good a central midfield as most in this division.

Football isnt about fashionable formations, it is about picking your best team and the formation and tactics that get the maximum effect. I am merely offering an opinion, it is blatantly obvious that we are desperately short of quality wingers and that we will not have the funds to fill these gaps, so why not make best use of the resources available.

Agreed, looks like a very good starting eleven indeed! PFKJDSGHIFSHU for manager!

 

[Foxes_Trust]

Just a thought but if funds are so limited and we are restricted to what we can do, how about this as a formation and line up using the existing squad.

Henderson

McCarthy
Kisnorbo
Johansson

Stearman
Hughes
Weso
Williams
Sheehan

Hume
Fryatt

With that team and formation, we would possibly need another left wing back and a central midfielder and possibly if funds allowed a goalkeeper.

Cover would come as follows :

GK - Douglas / Logan
RWB - Maybury / Sylla
LWB - New Signing / Tiatto (If he stays) / Hamill (?)
CB - Gerrbrand / Stearman
CM - New Signing / Stearman (Poss Def Mid) / Maybury (Poss Def Mid)
CF - O'Grady / Hammond / Chambers / Dodds

This is without allowing for any new signings and apart from the Left wing back berth and additional options in central midfield we dont look too lightweight, plus RK may well be able to wheel and deal in a couple of positions which may allow further strengthening.

Rob Kelly said he was a 4-4-2 man at the Trust AGM with the occasional use of alternatives to counter the opposition

 

[fcukcov]

Rob Kelly said he was a 4-4-2 man at the Trust AGM with the occasional use of alternatives to counter the opposition

really? i would have had him down as more of a SHOOT! man or at least Big Breasted over 40's housewives....

 

[PFKAKTF FOX]

Rob Kelly said he was a 4-4-2 man at the Trust AGM with the occasional use of alternatives to counter the opposition

I dont doubt that, but surely if we dont have the players to play 4-4-2 and as the club so readily admits, it does not have the funds then surely alternatives have to be looked at.

Surely there is no point in leaving a talented player like Hughes or Williams on the sidelines to accomodate an out of position Alan Maybury, an out of form Momo Sylla or a less talented Danny Tiatto or Andy Welsh.

Next season we can ill afford to have square pegs in round holes, they were Kelly's own words when he took over from Levein, so surely Rob's job as manager is to select the strongest side and the formation and tactics that suit, not pick a formation and then select the team around the system.

I would be very disappointed if we became one dimensional and predictable, surely Rob would not be so set in his ways, with us having little transfer funds available, Rob will have to be innovative and inventive to stand any chance of success, being single minded and having only one way of playing will be following in the footsteps of his predecessor.