Wake up Fickle boneheads

[alex]

Quick question to all.

Why do you go to games?

I started going to games, and got hooked on the *excitement* the slow rise from your seat as your stricker picks up the ball in the box. i remember living every tackle, and pass and shot. the buzz at watching a 50 yard pass land right at the feet of a player, and seeing someone in your shirt rising above the crowd to meet a lovely swinging cross from the by-line. watching a player evade tackles like he's the only man on the pitch. the joy of seeing your goalkeeper get his fingers to a sure goal. watching your striker turn and making the net bulge. Ultimately it was the antisipation and the desire that come the final whistle your team would be on top.

I haven't felt that way at a game in ages, for too long i'v been disapointed, the excitement has been replaced by low expectations.

I can live with my team failing from time to time, i can even live with the occasional dire performance, but not consistantly.

How can any so called fan be satisfied with 10 wins in a season? thats all we'll have at the present rate. and about 50 points. which got Gillingham relegated last year.

If your happy to sit back and watch it happen, i don't think you can call yourself a supporter!

Superb post.

 

[Brauny Blue]

Quick question to all.

Why do you go to games?

I started going to games, and got hooked on the *excitement* the slow rise from your seat as your stricker picks up the ball in the box. i remember living every tackle, and pass and shot. the buzz at watching a 50 yard pass land right at the feet of a player, and seeing someone in your shirt rising above the crowd to meet a lovely swinging cross from the by-line. watching a player evade tackles like he's the only man on the pitch. the joy of seeing your goalkeeper get his fingers to a sure goal. watching your striker turn and making the net bulge. Ultimately it was the antisipation and the desire that come the final whistle your team would be on top.

I haven't felt that way at a game in ages, for too long i'v been disapointed, the excitement has been replaced by low expectations.

I can live with my team failing from time to time, i can even live with the occasional dire performance, but not consistantly.

How can any so called fan be satisfied with 10 wins in a season? thats all we'll have at the present rate. and about 50 points. which got Gillingham relegated last year.

If your happy to sit back and watch it happen, i don't think you can call yourself a supporter!

I can understand the frustrations of folk on here, but this manager should be given time. We've seen off Taylor and thought our problems would go away with the arrival of MA. Two years later its goodbye MA , come on down Craig Levein. If Levein is sacked or walks who the hell would want to come here? Remember NO MONEY. The best hope we have imo is that a manager is given time to gel a side together and make us competitive. If you want success this season go and support Chelsea.
Although not guaranteed i'm looking forward to seeing certain peoples reactions when we get a couple of positive results. There will be a few on here that will regret their comments if we do pick up. There is nothing wrong with constructive criticism and most opinions are welcome, but sacking the manager is not necessarily the answer. Once again give the man a chance, and despite what folk say, those players do not go out on the pitch to lose.

 

[PFKAKTF FOX]

You cannot call supporters fickle boneheads just because they voice there concerns and disenchantment with the fact we have just been beaten at home by Burnley 1 - 0, and a display that was truly shocking, devoid of ideas, commitment, passion and guile. This defeat leaves us in 18th place in the Championship 15pts from 13 games and why should people who spend good money supporting the club not have the opportunity to voice that disatisfaction, without being labelled a fickle bonehead.

I am season ticket holder who travels a 300 mile round trip to watch a home game, I travelled 420 miles there and back to watch the game at Watford, and last night I was disgusted, hurt and upset by that performance, and I will vent these feelings on forums like these, but I will still travel home and away to watch the team come what may.

Supporting your team does not mean you have to blindly accept poor performances and poor results, as long as the criticism is constructive, but football is all about passion and sometimes even the calmest supporter's paitence will be tested to the limit. But a fan who does question, criticise or voice's their fustration / anger isnt a fickle bonehead either.

We all display our support for our team in different ways and with differing emotions, what we have to do is listen to and accept other people's views even if we dont agree and most of all keep supporting our team. As paying customers of Leicester City Football Club we are entitled to voice our disapproval if we are not recieving value for money.

 

[Durham Fox]

You cannot call supporters fickle boneheads just because they voice there concerns and disenchantment with the fact we have just been beaten at home by Burnley 1 - 0, and a display that was truly shocking, devoid of ideas, commitment, passion and guile. This defeat leaves us in 18th place in the Championship 15pts from 13 games and why should people who spend good money supporting the club not have the opportunity to voice that disatisfaction, without being labelled a fickle bonehead.

I am season ticket holder who travels a 300 mile round trip to watch a home game, I travelled 420 miles there and back to watch the game at Watford, and last night I was disgusted, hurt and upset by that performance, and I will vent these feelings on forums like these, but I will still travel home and away to watch the team come what may.

Supporting your team does not mean you have to blindly accept poor performances and poor results, as long as the criticism is constructive, but football is all about passion and sometimes even the calmest supporter's paitence will be tested to the limit. But a fan who does question, criticise or voice's their fustration / anger isnt a fickle bonehead either.

We all display our support for our team in different ways and with differing emotions, what we have to do is listen to and accept other people's views even if we dont agree and most of all keep supporting our team. As paying customers of Leicester City Football Club we are entitled to voice our disapproval if we are not recieving value for money.

 

[SilverFox]

This one is not really charecteristic of me but I'm going to play devils advocate on this one as I am very very unhappy

Martin O'Neill would not have stuck with the slow clumsy lump that is Mark Deep Freeze this long. It was a clueless inept performance last night, from a man who needs to stop looking at videos in the hope of finding a solution to the problem and recognise that he is part of the disease.

I generally like the players he has brought in, but tactically we are poor. We create nothing but speculative efforts, because instead of attempting to break and use our pace to our advantage (in Hume and Hammond) we go forward as a great incoherant lump! His prized possession up front is clumsy, slow and can't head a ball to save his life. Anyone who thinks Deep freeze is a good player, who will sustain any kind of scoring form is in serious need of a white stick and a labrador. The midfield is lightweight and was overrun last night and most nights. And in response to this problem last night we changed the left back . To add insult to injury the only player who looked remotely 'up for it' was a 36 year old Dion Dublin. If he cannot motivate his team to play for a full 90 minutes there is something seriously wrong. And as for pre season comments about not having a captain who is a leader but building a team full of leaders with mental strength...thats a good one, there was no strength whatsoever on display! We are lightweights in this division and will get punished easily as a result.

I like Levein, I am not a boo boy, but we should play better than that. When are we going to play home matches like we are the home team? Its just an easy ride every time, and most likely it will be on Sunday. Coventry have a lot of ex-city players, and we all know, as evidenced by last night, that when ex players return to their old club they raise their game! Will we raise ours? Because if we cannot I will have serious reservations about Levein's ability to manage and most importantly motivate a team!

I am an advocate of giving managers time to do their thing, but I see no improvements, and I like a lot of folk am getting bored with tired excuses. I am content to give time, but I am not content to be relegated in doing so. With roughly the 5th best budget this is unacceptable!

My rant is through, I thought I would have gotten over it by now (which is why I haven't posted yet) but this one really hurts for some reason!

 

[highland fox]

SF,shouldn't your signature read 'Toilet' instead of 'toiled '?

 

[Leigh]

I am an advocate of giving managers time to do their thing, but I see no improvements, and I like a lot of folk am getting bored with tired excuses. I am content to give time, but I am not content to be relegated in doing so. With roughly the 5th best budget this is unacceptable!

Improvement on the pitch might be hard to see, but would you agree that off the pitch (youth setup especially) we've improved a lot? That doesn't win matches or save jobs of course but it's a nice bit of 'value added' that previous managers haven't managed.

 

[SilverFox]

SF,shouldn't your signature read 'Toilet' instead of 'toiled '?

Mother puss bucket! Thanks for noticing the typo! I didn't:icon_lol:

 

[weluvulesta]

I dont think its expections, its just were shite against a terrible side we should be beating.

Burnley aren't exactly a terrible side, they're actually doing better than us this season uptil now, which i hope will be reversed.

Also if I'm correct they finished two places higher than us last season. They can't be that bad...?

 

[SilverFox]

Improvement on the pitch might be hard to see, but would you agree that off the pitch (youth setup especially) we've improved a lot? That doesn't win matches or save jobs of course but it's a nice bit of 'value added' that previous managers haven't managed.

Oh I agree that the youth set up looks better, but without a good first team, and good role models it can quickly turn sour. For example, if we are relegated then we lose our better players...who do the younger players learn from and emulate, and would a promising young player want to join a league 1 Leicester city side.

This club needs to open for business. At the moment no one appears to be home!

 

[Steven]

Oh I agree that the youth set up looks better, but without a good first team, and good role models it can quickly turn sour. For example, if we are relegated then we lose our better players...who do the younger players learn from and emulate, and would a promising young player want to join a league 1 Leicester city side.

This club needs to open for business. At the moment no one appears to be home!

That is key to me. If the budget can survive dwindling crowds then I am certain CL will stick around, whereas if the budget is tight then that will play out the strongest at board level. :icon_eek: :icon_sad:

 

[Chuck T Masala]

The key to me is the players It is they that should believe they will win every game. iti s they that should feel the desire and the passion to beat the lot of them, its is they that should be self disciplined and self motivated enough to play with all their energy and all their skill for the entire game, every game. Countless examples of teams of average individuals working incredibly hard for each other, making life hard for the opposition and getting results through sheer endeavour and spirit.

CL's job must include the leadership required to extract this from the team.

Just a thought.

 

[Hazzman]

People dont make excuses, Levein or not. We were facking shite on Tuesday against a side you look to beat home (you should do every team expect the top 3 of the premier). They are playing shite, and something needs to be done (it doesnt have to a sacking).

 

[Leesoh]

If you want success this season go and support Chelsea.

You're totally missing the point. Success would be great, but all I want is to feel excited about watching my team again instead of thinking "I hope we don't look shite again today".

At the moment the team looks disinterested, there's no real passion or commitment from the players, we have players in positions they're not used to, we have tactics that are either non-existent or aren't being adhered to because I can't believe they've been told to play this way.

You have to have ambition, if you don't you have no progression, no development. I'm realistic; we won't get success overnight, and the work that's been done off the field is enough for me to think it's too early to have a change of manager, but without seeing any improvement on the pitch can you really blame people for saying something?

 

[Chuck T Masala]

People dont make excuses, Levein or not. We were facking shite on Tuesday against a side you look to beat home (you should do every team expect the top 3 of the premier). They are playing shite, and something needs to be done (it doesnt have to a sacking).

Who is making excuses? My point was that they are not giving what is required in order to do reasonably well in this div. The manager has to be responsible for some of that. What we delivering at the moment is not good enough, and you are right something has to change. Apart from "sack him" I've seen few other suggestions?

 

[Hazzman]

Not excuses its just alibis.

-He's got the average age down
-etc..

 

[alex]

No point bringing down the average age if you're also bringing down the position of the club is it?

This is a pointless argument, as should we start getting deeply involved in a relegation dog fight, I should imagine all posters on here will be disgruntled; I cannot believe any 'supporter' would be able to stand by and watch us go down with a 'positive-about-Levein' air.

I don't think we will, I also don't think Levine's doing what we had hoped so far this term.

 

[Durham Fox]

No point bringing down the average age if you're also bringing down the position of the club is it?

This is a pointless argument, as should we start getting deeply involved in a relegation dog fight, I should imagine all posters on here will be disgruntled; I cannot believe any 'supporter' would be able to stand by and watch us go down with a 'positive-about-Levein' air.

I don't think we will, I also don't think Levine's doing what we had hoped so far this term.

Spot on Alex, spot on.

 

[SilverFox]

No point bringing down the average age if you're also bringing down the position of the club is it?

This is a pointless argument, as should we start getting deeply involved in a relegation dog fight, I should imagine all posters on here will be disgruntled; I cannot believe any 'supporter' would be able to stand by and watch us go down with a 'positive-about-Levein' air.

I don't think we will, I also don't think Levine's doing what we had hoped so far this term.

I agree 100%

We have a smaller squad because Levein wanted to bring in a higher standard of player...thus we have fewer numbers because instead of spending on 3-4 middle of the road players, we are investing in quality. Unfortunately it hasn't quite played out that way. Instead we have a small squad that is lightweight and fragile in terms of mental strength.

If the hope was to push the top six, it needs to start now, and these players need to be motivated to do so, as unfortunately they are all we have!

 

[Granite Fox]

Levein is not delivering what he hoped for!

I still believe a lot of it is down to a lack of confidence and mental strength to deal with the current situation (a bit of a viscious circle, as they play with a lack of confidence, don't get a result, the crowd gets on their back and they get even worse).

We need a few results, whether we deserve them or not and I am sure things would move on from there. Failing that it is up to Levein to play mind games with the squad and gettting them to believe in themselves again.

I don't think it is any coincidence that Dublin and Hughes are used to winning matches and they are the only two to show the right mental strength.

We may have been crap on Tuesday (especally in the 2nd half) but we lost to Burnley at home during our promotion season and it is still a game we should have got something out of (should have been 1 or 2 goals up at half time, the brilliant save from the McCarthy header and the Dublin effort that was cleared off the line). I don't think it will take much to turn things around, but if we carry on like this much longer it will get harder and harder. Do we really believe that we have got the rub of the green this season?

I say all of this stuck up in Aberdeen and not having been down to the Walkers this season to share your pain.