Barack Obama

[SJN-Fox]

Barack Obama has finally broken from American tradition, and will become the first black person to enter the White House not holding a mop.

Sorry, but that's just made me laugh my head off.

 

[Biff]

Bollocks-the likelyhood of an American attack on Iran in the current international climate is extremely doubtful. plus if you actually look at his policies towards iran its about diplomacy not aggression

You reckon

 

[drummindefender]

Yes i reckon. The US isn't stupid. it knows Iraq has been a strategic disaster which has not only turned the international community against them but has also fuelled the fires of extremists, using it as an example of US imperialism etc. I find it hilarious how people just assume that because America invaded Iraq its going to do the same with Iran. The fact is America knew Iraq was weak-Saddam was a pathetic mess after the gulf war, and the US knew he would be a walk over. Iran's a different case. Plus looking at recent developments even the Bush administration is willing to be diplomatic-negotiations with N.Korea have seen them taken off the US's official State Sponsors of Terrorism list.

With Obama in charge, unless there is extreme provacation, there will be no military action against Iran. The only way it will happen is if they attack first (and most likely area would beIsrael)-and they know if they did that they'd be ****ed...

So yeah I reckon...

 

[Boy Genius]

Yes i reckon. The US isn't stupid. it knows Iraq has been a strategic disaster which has not only turned the international community against them but has also fuelled the fires of extremists, using it as an example of US imperialism etc. I find it hilarious how people just assume that because America invaded Iraq its going to do the same with Iran. The fact is America knew Iraq was weak-Saddam was a pathetic mess after the gulf war, and the US knew he would be a walk over. Iran's a different case. Plus looking at recent developments even the Bush administration is willing to be diplomatic-negotiations with N.Korea have seen them taken off the US's official State Sponsors of Terrorism list.

With Obama in charge, unless there is extreme provacation, there will be no military action against Iran. The only way it will happen is if they attack first (and most likely area would beIsrael)-and they know if they did that they'd be ****ed...

So yeah I reckon...

DD, you say firstly that the USA look upon Iran as a different case, meaning they would put up a harder fight than Iraq, so therefore the invasion is off. You then sign off with saying Iran know they would get the shit kicked out of them if they started anything. So surely USA have not invaded because they don't want to, or have any need to.

 

[drummindefender]

DD, you say firstly that the USA look upon Iran as a different case, meaning they would put up a harder fight than Iraq, so therefore the invasion is off. You then sign off with saying Iran know they would get the shit kicked out of them if they started anything. So surely USA have not invaded because they don't want to, or have any need to.

Iran's a different case as the US can't go in there now alone by themselves and act unilaterally like they did with Iraq, they would never get it through congress etc.

They'd have the shit beaten out of them if they attacked Israel as there would be a coalition fighting them.

 

[drummindefender]

Plus Iran is still militarily weak in comparison to the US don't get me wrong, its just not as easy a target as Iraq was. If the US wanted too they could destroy Iran in a conventional war. but its not going to happen.

 

[Boy Genius]

Iran's a different case as the US can't go in there now alone by themselves and act unilaterally like they did with Iraq, they would never get it through congress etc.

They'd have the shit beaten out of them if they attacked Israel as there would be a coalition fighting them.

They did Iraq alone? I thought other nations were involved on that one.

 

[drummindefender]

You know what i mean BG. The war in Iraq didn't have the same amount of countries in the coalition as Afghanistan, and the American commitment in troops is alot larger then anyone else-its their war (well Bush and the Neo-Cons at the Pentagon) not the international community, thats what i'm trying to get at.

 

[Boy Genius]

You know what i mean BG. The war in Iraq didn't have the same amount of countries in the coalition as Afghanistan, and the American commitment in troops is alot larger then anyone else-its their war (well Bush and the Neo-Cons at the Pentagon) not the international community, thats what i'm trying to get at.

I know exactly what you mean DD.......:icon_bigg

 

[drummindefender]

good because for a second then i thought you were ****ing stupid:icon_wink

 

[Hazzman]

I'm with DD in concerns to Iran. It's all different ball game to Iraq and too much for the Americans to take on. Just like Venezuela would be too complicated for any attack (political or military).

Behind the curtain, Tehran is fairly westernised. Too many friends elsewhere.

 

[drummindefender]

I'm even more pleased Obama has won. I'm currently doin my dissertation on counter-terrorism and all of his policies on counter-terrorism fit in line with the recommendations i've read throughout the academic literature on the subject by various experts in the field. Obviously this doesn't guarantee success or even that he'll actually turn these ideas into policy, but its a good start!

 

[highland fox]

Boring bastards....

 

[drummindefender]

indeed :icon_wink

 

[Biff]

Iran will carry on developing their nuclear program behind closed doors, like they have been, regardless of the fact Obama is now at the helm.

Its business as usual on that front.

 

[Hazzman]

Which some may feel is more geared towards protection against Israel and other middle eastern countries than USA.

 

[Biff]

Which some may feel is more geared towards protection against Israel and other middle eastern countries than USA.

'Dinnerjacket' (sp) has gone on record saying he would like to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth. Hardly protection talk

 

[footyguts]

hes still a dead man walking

 

[Hazzman]

'Dinnerjacket' (sp) has gone on record saying he would like to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth. Hardly protection talk

and the reasoning he wants to wipe them off the face of the Earth? Because of Israel's aggresive nature to fellow countries in the middle east.

Israel threaten attack in 2003 against Iran and their past history of relations with Islamic countries in the ME suggested they would be more than willing.

 

[Biff]

and the reasoning he wants to wipe them off the face of the Earth? Because of Israel's aggresive nature to fellow countries in the middle east.

Israel threaten attack in 2003 against Iran and their past history of relations with Islamic countries in the ME suggested they would be more than willing.

Was they provocked Do you have a link to this 'attack'