Can we afford to sack Levein?

[Durham Fox]

But we might end up losing just as much in ticket sales because of the ridiculous kick-off time.



Do you really think we don't need any more players?

Our top goalscorer this season is MdV (He's scored more than Hammond and Hume combined, and he can't get into the team any more!), our next best is a midfielder. Hume has scored the same number of goals for us this season as Connolly!
We desperately need someone who can put the ball in the net. I don't think our strikers will suddenly start scoring if we bring a new manager in, they've never been prolific scorers at their previous clubs and I don't think that's going to change.

So we may have the choice of getting a new manager, or getting a new striker.

Spot on Webbo. Prime objective must be someone with a proven goalscoring record (which incidentally CL should have aimed for originally)

 

[drummindefender]

Spot on Webbo. Prime objective must be someone with a proven goalscoring record (which incidentally CL should have aimed for originally)

well can we please stop wearing rose tinted specs and think fowler will join us-ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN-and if it does well i'll eat my hat :icon_razz

 

[Durham Fox]

well can we please stop wearing rose tinted specs and think fowler will join us-ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN-and if it does well i'll eat my hat :icon_razz

Why not? Pearce has already said he would let him go but they aren't queing up for him.

 

[drummindefender]

Why not? Pearce has already said he would let him go but they aren't queing up for him.

well he's not exactly going to list all the clubs who are after him, plus don't you think others may now be alerted who will have a much better chance then us? Fowler has too much pride to drop down a league, let alone drop down a league to a struggling side.

 

[Steven]

well can we please stop wearing rose tinted specs and think fowler will join us-ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN-and if it does well i'll eat my hat :icon_razz

No sauces. :icon_razz

 

[City Fan]

But we might end up losing just as much in ticket sales because of the ridiculous kick-off time.



Do you really think we don't need any more players?

Our top goalscorer this season is MdV (He's scored more than Hammond and Hume combined, and he can't get into the team any more!), our next best is a midfielder. Hume has scored the same number of goals for us this season as Connolly!
We desperately need someone who can put the ball in the net. I don't think our strikers will suddenly start scoring if we bring a new manager in, they've never been prolific scorers at their previous clubs and I don't think that's going to change.

So we may have the choice of getting a new manager, or getting a new striker.

If we got a new manager, we wouldn't need any new players. Our midfield is one of the best in the division on paper, Joey, Williams, Hughesy etc, but they aren't creating enough chances due to Levein's tactics. A new striker will not change a thing with Levein in charge.

 

[Redditch Fox]

If we got a new manager, we wouldn't need any new players. Our midfield is one of the best in the division on paper, Joey, Williams, Hughesy etc, but they aren't creating enough chances due to Levein's tactics. A new striker will not change a thing with Levein in charge.

Exactly, it's a mistake to allow Levein to bring anyone in. If it happens it just shows the weakness of the board.

You should start with the basics. Bring in a manager who can get the players to perform at something approaching their ability. if this is done we won't need a new striker to avoid relegation. In any case, Levein's judgement on strikers is appalling.

 

[webmaster]

Exactly, it's a mistake to allow Levein to bring anyone in. If it happens it just shows the weakness of the board.

You should start with the basics. Bring in a manager who can get the players to perform at something approaching their ability. if this is done we won't need a new striker to avoid relegation. In any case, Levein's judgement on strikers is appalling.

You really think the strikers we've got are good enough?

:icon_roll

 

[City Fan]

You really think the strikers we've got are good enough?

:icon_roll

Hammond isn't, Hume is, De Vries is questionable, Smith is. But the strikers aren't scoring the goals because they haven't been given the chances.

 

[Fox Fan]

You really think the strikers we've got are good enough?

:icon_roll

Well when we got promoted with MA, Trevor Benjamin was auful at the start of the season, but come the end of it he was banging them in for fun. I think Cork & Co worked with him to improve his ability etc...

Anyway my point is if they turned him into a goal scorer (all be it for about 3 months) then why couldn't a new manager do the same at city?

 

[webmaster]

Hammond isn't, Hume is, De Vries is questionable, Smith is. But the strikers aren't scoring the goals because they haven't been given the chances.

Hume is not and has never been a prolific scorer. He's missed his fair share of chances but seems to get off lightly because he's a fans favourite.
The strikers we've got don't have the instinct necessary to score lots of goals, the sort of thing the likes of Lineker, Cottee etc had.

 

[Chrysalis]

if we have to use our transfer budget to pay him so be it, the current squad can stay up with the right manager.

 

[webmaster]

if we have to use our transfer budget to pay him so be it, the current squad can stay up with the right manager.

So who is the right manager?

 

[Brauny Blue]

Probaly been mentioned before, and i've no doubt we won't get him, but i'd like to see Lee Trundle here

 

[SilverFox]

Probaly been mentioned before, and i've no doubt we won't get him, but i'd like to see Lee Trundle here

Me too! But when he was on goals on Sunday and they asked him why he turned down Sheffield Wednesday, he said it was because of their league position...now tell me why we would be attractive.

We had our chance to make an offer, but that window of opportunity is now closed.

 

[Brauny Blue]

Me too! But when he was on goals on Sunday and they asked him why he turned down Sheffield Wednesday, he said it was because of their league position...now tell me why we would be attractive.

We had our chance to make an offer, but that window of opportunity is now closed.

That is the skill of a manager. Trying to convince a player that the club is worth joining. F*rest are in lge 1 but i'm sure they will attract enough decent players because whether we like it or not, they are not going to be in that league for too long. Its upto Levein to convince any incoming players that he wants them to play a major part in the clubs return to where it belongs.

 

[SilverFox]

That is the skill of a manager. Trying to convince a player that the club is worth joining. F*rest are in lge 1 but i'm sure they will attract enough decent players because whether we like it or not, they are not going to be in that league for too long. Its upto Levein to convince any incoming players that he wants them to play a major part in the clubs return to where it belongs.

Scotland?

:icon_lol:

 

[PFKAKTF FOX]

In all honesty are we really going to be able to attract the kind of striker everybody is talking about, we sit one place and one point of dropping into the relegation zone, our form is getting worse not better, the manager is under serious scrutiny, and we are hardly loaded, truth is we may well end up with another striker who has a proven record but at what level ?

As others have said Levein's judgement on strikers has been very poor so far, Hume is a very good player but is not an out and out goalscorer, MDV proven record in Scotland isnt breaking any records whilst Hammond for all his hard work and endeavour will never be a 20 goal a season striker at this level, so what do we do allow Levein more money to bring in yet another gamble, might pay off, it might not but based on previous history and when we have been in stronger positions both financially and positionally ie pre season, he has failed to deliver, so what is going to change now ?

I tend to agree with other poster's who have stated that even if we did sign another striker, is our play that good, that one signing would make that much difference, if we play with the same application and tactics as we displayed against Sheff Utd then possibly yes, but if we go into games being negative and setting our stall out to stifle the opposition as we have so many times this season then no I dont believe one striker is the answer.

We have to get the current squad performing to the levels we know they are capable of, the likes of Maybury, McCarthy, Gerrbrand, Stearman, Smith, Gudjonsson, Williams, Hughes, Sylla, Hammond, MDV and Hume have shown they are more than capable at this level and if the manager can get a system that allows this players to maximise their effectiveness and talent there is o reason why we shouldnt be at least top half.

Giving a manager, who has yet to prove he can get anywhere near the best out of a squad that has been assembled for nearly 6 months and with some players for over a year and he is still trying to find his best team, if that is the case how can he identify a striker or any other player for that matter who would fit in, surely we will be adding to our problems, there are many holes in the current squad that need plugging, holes that have not been filled adequately by the current manager in the summer, and yet we trust him, in a time that is even more desperate to go out now and solve these problems.

I remain unconvinced and I am genuinely worried that more expenditure by the current manager will lead to more debt and squad players who are clearly not good enough.

 

[Real Sharapova]

If we got a new manager, we wouldn't need any new players. Our midfield is one of the best in the division on paper, Joey, Williams, Hughesy etc, but they aren't creating enough chances due to Levein's tactics. A new striker will not change a thing with Levein in charge.

If you see Webbo's stats thread, we have been creating shedloads of chances, the strikers conversion rate is just not good enough

 

[Redditch Fox]

You really think the strikers we've got are good enough?

:icon_roll

No Webmaster - my thinking is as follows:

1. The club through poor planning and bad management at board/ manager levels has let go 4 decent strikers over a couple of years, culminating in Connolly (plenty good enough to score goals in this division) - this is a key factor for where we are now;

2. Its difficult to bring in decent strikers on the cheap - but that said Levein does not seem to have an eye for a striker who will score goals in the division and the signing of Hammond - as I forecast - has proved to be an appalling waste of scant resources;

3. Levein is a washout - the only beneficiaries from his retention will be our rivals in a relegation dog fight ...and in these circumstances I wouldn't back his judgement by allowing him to spend any more money on either fees or loans.