City announce Season Ticket rises for 2024/25

[bocadillo]

I can feel the club squirming a little now.

Squirming suggests they have feelings. Whoever designed this caper certainly hasn't.

 

[popillius]

It will be data harvesting.

What other data are they taking from your phone when you use a digital ticket?

I'm sure they would be able to determine if someone else has used the ticket via MAC addresses/wallet ids/Apple or Google ids emails etc.

Makes no sense at all.

 

[popillius]

It's just daft. I think the approach is spot on; going to mobile tickets has to happen. It just makes sense. Charging £25 for a different option is complete nonsense. Don't offer a different option, take a few angry emails and be done with it. Offering a chargeable second option is just asking for trouble.

 

[Brown Nose]

It's just daft. I think the approach is spot on; going to mobile tickets has to happen. It just makes sense. Charging £25 for a different option is complete nonsense. Don't offer a different option, take a few angry emails and be done with it. Offering a chargeable second option is just asking for trouble.

What about people that don't have smartphones? Or the chaotic evidence of every single time we've attempted to use it at scale? No?

Do you know the actual reason why football clubs were encouraged to move towards NFC ticketing?

It came about in the immediate aftermath of Covid when there was the concern that you could catch it from passing around actual tickets. The PL wrote into its instructions that clubs should look to encourage NFC as it could be used as an argument if the government tried to shut football down again.

Barking mad. But that's where it came from and the guidance still stands.

It's a lot cheaper for clubs than manufacturing cards/tickets. It is also true that NFC enable clubs to gather more information than the current ticket cards or actual paper tickets. They get a much better understanding of who is in each seat, how often they actually attend, what time they arrive at the stadium, how they consume what they like to call the 'match day experience' and so on.

There is also the security question. There are many examples you can read of counterfeit NFCs, or NFCs disappearing off your phone when you get to the ground through device pairing. About how easy it is to hack the hardware and cause chaos. One day soon enough, this will happen at a game. Because technology isn't always the best answer.

And then there is the access to contact details leading to advertising and junk mail. It's common that using NFC leads to your details being sold on to third parties.

But even if none of this was a concern, I still wouldn't want it. I have used NFC for some things and I will do so in the future too. I'll do it when it makes sense for me. It doesn't make sense for me at the football and I'm in a massive majority in feeling this way. That alone should be enough.

Nobody who doesn't want to use NFC wants to stop those that do want to use it. Go for it. Why do you want to stop over 90% of City fans from doing what they want to do?

 

[Jeff]

NFC enable clubs to gather more information than the current ticket cards or actual paper tickets. They get a much better understanding of who is in each seat, how often they actually attend, what time they arrive at the stadium

They get that information from paper tickets and cards. Unless the person who uses the ticket isn't the person who bought it. And it seems the way the club has implemented nfc means it's easy to give tickets to other people so the information they get might not be any more accurate.

And then there is the access to contact details leading to advertising and junk mail. It's common that using NFC leads to your details being sold on to third parties.

Have you got a source for this?

 

[Blue Maniac]

And then there is the access to contact details leading to advertising and junk mail. It's common that using NFC leads to your details being sold on to third parties.

not at all legal

 

[pork pie fox]

It doesn't make sense for me at the football and I'm in a massive majority in feeling this way.

Are you? You might be, but that’s a big statement, so I was just wondering what it was based on.

 

[fox58]

I might be missing something here but I’ve tried to renew my season ticket and I want a physical card. However, every time I click on apply for a season card it takes me to a fox member application form for a season ticket waiting list.
Has any one else applied for a card?

 

[Leigh]

I might be missing something here but I’ve tried to renew my season ticket and I want a physical card. However, every time I click on apply for a season card it takes me to a fox member application form for a season ticket waiting list.
Has any one else applied for a card?

I was similarly confused. You just have to scroll down there is a second option.

 

[homer]

I might be missing something here but I’ve tried to renew my season ticket and I want a physical card. However, every time I click on apply for a season card it takes me to a fox member application form for a season ticket waiting list.
Has any one else applied for a card?

You see - And they expect people like this to use a ticket they have to download onto a wallet they’ve created on their phone

It’s just plain cruelty, I tells ya

 

[popillius]

What about people that don't have smartphones? Or the chaotic evidence of every single time we've attempted to use it at scale? No?

Do you know the actual reason why football clubs were encouraged to move towards NFC ticketing?

It came about in the immediate aftermath of Covid when there was the concern that you could catch it from passing around actual tickets. The PL wrote into its instructions that clubs should look to encourage NFC as it could be used as an argument if the government tried to shut football down again.

Barking mad. But that's where it came from and the guidance still stands.

It's a lot cheaper for clubs than manufacturing cards/tickets. It is also true that NFC enable clubs to gather more information than the current ticket cards or actual paper tickets. They get a much better understanding of who is in each seat, how often they actually attend, what time they arrive at the stadium, how they consume what they like to call the 'match day experience' and so on.

There is also the security question. There are many examples you can read of counterfeit NFCs, or NFCs disappearing off your phone when you get to the ground through device pairing. About how easy it is to hack the hardware and cause chaos. One day soon enough, this will happen at a game. Because technology isn't always the best answer.

And then there is the access to contact details leading to advertising and junk mail. It's common that using NFC leads to your details being sold on to third parties.

But even if none of this was a concern, I still wouldn't want it. I have used NFC for some things and I will do so in the future too. I'll do it when it makes sense for me. It doesn't make sense for me at the football and I'm in a massive majority in feeling this way. That alone should be enough.

Nobody who doesn't want to use NFC wants to stop those that do want to use it. Go for it. Why do you want to stop over 90% of City fans from doing what they want to do?

You can't just make things up and post them as fact. Most of what you are panicking about already happens with your card; there is absolutely no difference. Some of what you suggest isn't even legal and some straight out of a book written by David Icke. You have an elephant sized bee in your bonnet and you want to throw a few toys out of the pram simply because it's another thing you can criticise for; it's a hobby of yours.

The fact is, it's happening. Everywhere. And soon. Giving a second option just causes more problems than it solves. I can see why, for the first year you may want to allow some supporters with access issues or who genuinely have no other option but to use a card, to do so (the £25 thing is just stupid and should be scrapped immediately), but digital entry will become the only accepted form of ticketing soon as it will in every other ground in the top leagues across the country.