Doping Allegations

[Miles Away]

I guarantee this has completely bollocksed up the players and fans for today.

 

[LeeCovFox]

Apologies thanks for the correction

None necessary.

 

[Matt_B]

No need to apologise.

They've pulled it out from the paywall I believe.

Just had a look and could only see the first half unless I got the wrong article.

 

[Cate Fox]

I guarantee this has completely bollocksed up the players and fans for today.

It will only bollocks them up if they have something to hide. Personally I don't think they are guilty of anything.

 

[big_mac4824]

Still if Pearson and the club have been keeping samples and records we will be ok

 

[SJN-Fox]

The government has now ordered an enquiry.

 

[SJN-Fox]

Speculation, but I heard watching MOTD that a player was dropped pending an investigation. It didn't elaborate. I can't remember who or what team as I was only half watching it.

It will be interesting to see if any of our regulars are missing today. I hope not.

Probably referring to Agbonlahor (sp). Dropped after photos of him with a shisha pipe in Turkey.

 

[Matt_B]

I can't see any other article naming or hinting at players or teams. I wonder if they aren't as confident in the Times as they themselves are?

 

[Cate Fox]

The government has now ordered an enquiry.

If it's anything like their other enquiries it will be a few million down the pan with nothing to show for it.

 

[Cate Fox]

I can't see any other article naming or hinting at players or teams. I wonder if they aren't as confident in the Times as they themselves are?

Who's they?

 

[Matt_B]

It will only bollocks them up if they have something to hide. Personally I don't think they are guilty of anything.

Watching the video, it does seem like he's giving it the big one to get clients, rather than having a raft of clients.

It reminds me a bit of that advert for a law firm that's on at the minute. It says something like "we've won lots of cases for lots of people but client confidentiality prevents us from saying how or who."

 

[Matt_B]

Who's they?

Articles like BBC and Guardian have reported the news but stopped short of any indication of who is supposedly involved. I've not read he Times article, but if that mentions us I'm not sure why others aren't, unless they are worried about it being libel.

 

[Cate Fox]

Articles like BBC and Guardian have reported the news but stopped short of any indication of who is supposedly involved. I've not read he Times article, but if that mentions us I'm not sure why others aren't, unless they are worried about it being libel.

They are all quoting from The Times I think...

 

[Matt_B]

They are all quoting from The Times I think...

Yeah but not including any quotes about teams or players involved. That's my point. They've seemingly chosen to omit what would possibly be the key element.

 

[Matt_B]

Yeah but not including any quotes about teams or players involved. That's my point. They've seemingly chosen to omit what would possibly be the key element.

I tell a lie, the Telegraph have.

 

[Borderfox]

Still think its bullshit, if the 'Times' had any evidence other than this video they would have gone for the jugular, and named names.

 

[Ike O'Noclassed]

Still think its bullshit, if the 'Times' had any evidence other than this video they would have gone for the jugular, and named names.

Actually, it's all too depressingly plausible. The Sharapova revelations just recently lifted the lid on the widespread grey area of athletes' apparent misuse of prescribed drugs for medical conditions, and the article seems to be more about that than the concerted doping seen in cycling, athletics etc.

FWIW it isn't even Sunday Times sports journos like David Walsh (busted Lance Armstrong) whose investigation this is, it's the news team which have brought us over the years Thalidomide, Kim Philby, Israeli Nuclear Weapons programme and of course the FIFA bungs expose, none of which qualify as "bullshit".

The article itself seems to target the UKAD anti-drugs unit, whose apparent negligence has prompted the Sports Minister to announce an enquiry. Whether, individuals will start to be named in due course is anyone's guess.

 

[Profondo Rosso]

Actually, it's all too depressingly plausible. The Sharapova revelations just recently lifted the lid on the widespread grey area of athletes' apparent misuse of prescribed drugs for medical conditions, and the article seems to be more about that than the concerted doping seen in cycling, athletics etc.

FWIW it isn't even Sunday Times sports journos like David Walsh (busted Lance Armstrong) whose investigation this is, it's the news team which have brought us over the years Thalidomide, Kim Philby, Israeli Nuclear Weapons programme and of course the FIFA bungs expose, none of which qualify as "bullshit".

The article itself seems to target the UKAD anti-drugs unit, whose apparent negligence has prompted the Sports Minister to announce an enquiry. Whether, individuals will start to be named in due course is anyone's guess.

Agreed. It's very very plausible and very likely from what I've seen. Though I don't think it's anything to do with the club, just individuals.

That's why I just hope to feck if any of our players were involved with him it was some no marker from the Sven era and not any of our current players.

 

[Jeff]

I just hope to feck if any of our players were involved with him it was some no marker from the Sven era and not any of our current players.

And if our players are involved hopefully it's something they've done themselves and the club isn't involved or aware of it.

 

[pork pie fox]

Actually, it's all too depressingly plausible. The Sharapova revelations just recently lifted the lid on the widespread grey area of athletes' apparent misuse of prescribed drugs for medical conditions, and the article seems to be more about that than the concerted doping seen in cycling, athletics etc.

FWIW it isn't even Sunday Times sports journos like David Walsh (busted Lance Armstrong) whose investigation this is, it's the news team which have brought us over the years Thalidomide, Kim Philby, Israeli Nuclear Weapons programme and of course the FIFA bungs expose, none of which qualify as "bullshit".

The article itself seems to target the UKAD anti-drugs unit, whose apparent negligence has prompted the Sports Minister to announce an enquiry. Whether, individuals will start to be named in due course is anyone's guess.

I'd actually be a bit more worried if David Walsh was behind this article. His original book on Armstrong was fantastic.