Doping Allegations

[fitz]

At the end of the video it says that they don't have any other independent evidence to support his claims so I'd be surprised if they do.

They'll say the same when they release the players names no doubt.

 

[Miles Away]

True. Am I missing something though, neither the video nor the article mention us, it's just the tweet on the Spurs forum that does?

The article clearly mentions us.

 

[Borderfox]

At the end of the video it says that they don't have any other independent evidence to support his claims so I'd be surprised if they do.

The lack of independent evidence won't stop a Murdoch newspaper from publishing what they have. No doubt they will be willing risk Court action if they have names and decide to publish.

 

[Jeff]

True. Am I missing something though, neither the video nor the article mention us, it's just the tweet on the Spurs forum that does?

I feel better about today's game now if it's just Spurs fans saying it's us. I assumed Miles Away had a reliable source or had read the Sunday Times article when he said our players were involved. I'll move this thread to the general football forum.

 

[Feriol]

Speculation, but I heard watching MOTD that a player was dropped pending an investigation. It didn't elaborate. I can't remember who or what team as I was only half watching it.

It will be interesting to see if any of our regulars are missing today. I hope not.

 

[LeeCovFox]

Us, Chelsea, Arsenal and Birmingham are mentioned in the Sunday Times article. The doctor, who doesn't strike me as Mr Reliable, doesn't claim to have been involved with any particular clubs, just that his clients have played for those clubs at some point. It's all a bit sketchy and he's only one doctor.

I'd be surprised if the Times were prepared to go big on this if they weren't sure they had a story and there is bound to be more to come. They've been very good at exposing corruption in sport in recent years. I've no reason to believe that our performances this season are the result of doping. But, equally, I've no reason to believe, if such practices are indeed rife in top level football, that we'd not also be a part of it.

 

[Miles Away]

I feel better about today's game now if it's just Spurs fans saying it's us. I assumed Miles Away had a reliable source or had read the Sunday Times article when he said our players were involved. I'll move this thread to the general football forum.

I've read the article. We are named.

 

[Miles Away]

Us, Chelsea, Arsenal and Birmingham are mentioned in the Sunday Times article. The doctor, who doesn't strike me as Mr Reliable, doesn't claim to have been involved with any particular clubs, just that his clients have played for those clubs at some point. It's all a bit sketchy and he's only one doctor.

I'd be surprised if the Times were prepared to go big on this if they weren't sure they had a story and there is bound to be more to come. They've been very good at exposing corruption in sport in recent years. I've no reason to believe that our performances this season are the result of doping. But, equally, I've no reason to believe, if such practices are indeed rife in top level football, that we'd not also be a part of it.

We would also make for a great patsy, wouldn't we? Can leave the big clubs alone, hammer little old Leicester and claim the whole thing is sorted out.

 

[Profondo Rosso]

I've read the article. We are named.

I think Jeff was being sarcastic.

 

[Miles Away]

I think Jeff was being sarcastic.

Oops.

Whoooooossshhh

Etc

 

[LeeCovFox]

We would also make for a great patsy, wouldn't we? Can leave the big clubs alone, hammer little old Leicester and claim the whole thing is sorted out.

I don't think that's the case. The bigger clubs are more interesting targets for the newspapers at least. I think as much as possible will be done to suppress a story like this. Look at the Fuentes situation in Spain; not a chance anybody is allowing the possibility that Barcelona players have been doped to their eyeballs for the last few years to be exposed. There are suspicions about Milan's 'laboratory' too. This goes on and has done for years. It's in nobody's interests for anything to come of this.

 

[LeeCovFox]

All that said:

"The Sunday Times says it has no independent evidence Bonar treated the players.

Bonar told the Sunday Times he treated the athletes for medical reasons and not to enhance their performance. There is no suggestion the substances were illegal."

 

[pork pie fox]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35953447

Leicester said: "We are extremely disappointed that The Sunday Times has published unsubstantiated allegations referring to players from clubs including Leicester City when, on its own admission, it has insufficient evidence to support the claims."

 

[big_mac4824]

Not too sure here but didn't Pearson test his squad on a weekly basis with the whole sports science aspect? The only concern I have is that the Times did the same approach to the expenses scandal, then a whole raft of evidence came flooding in.

 

[LeeCovFox]

It was the Telegraph but I'd expect this to be similar. I'd expect that this is just a primer.

 

[Matt_B]

The article clearly mentions us.

Apologies, it must be the times article. I've only read the Guardian one linked to as I'd assumed the time ones would be behind their pay wall.

 

[Miles Away]

FA Statement:

http://www.thefa.com/news/thefa/2016/apr/fa-statement-over-doping-allegations

 

[Profondo Rosso]

All that said:

"The Sunday Times says it has no independent evidence Bonar treated the players.

Bonar told the Sunday Times he treated the athletes for medical reasons and not to enhance their performance. There is no suggestion the substances were illegal."

If you watch the video though he infers that he'll use the medical thing as an explanation when asked beforehand.

 

[Miles Away]

Apologies, it must be the times article. I've only read the Guardian one linked to as I'd assumed the time ones would be behind their pay wall.

No need to apologise.

They've pulled it out from the paywall I believe.

 

[big_mac4824]

It was the Telegraph but I'd expect this to be similar. I'd expect that this is just a primer.

Apologies thanks for the correction