Family's dream holiday in ruins

[Melton Fox]

But being the law might not make it right either ......for me.

Indeed, there are lots of laws that I don't agree with.

 

[spionfox]

Indeed, there are lots of laws that I don't agree with.

No being able to stab people in the head being one of them.

 

[From Gradel to Grave]

You give me too much credit. Morality is no friend of mine.

I did refer to a moral compass of sorts :icon_bigg

Maybe it's the type of compass you can stab people in the head with.

 

[Leesoh]

That's fine, and I 100% applaud you for that.

But it isn't nice to have somebody look down at their nose at you, or appear to, because they don't share your idea of a nice holiday.

I love English seaside holidays, and all my childhood life I had the piss taken out of me for not going abroad and not having any money. Truth is, we never, but what we did do we really enjoyed, and my children also really enjoy the English seaside. I hope they never get the same snobbish attitude from people that I got, especially from adults.

I used to lie, and say we went somewhere exotic. Shame, because there are some great places in the UK, something I have only really appreciated in the last few years.

The education doesn't solely come from parents. simply being in an alien environment (even travellling to it) is an education. Being bitten by a mosquito and then suffering from rubbing the bite is an education etc...

It's not going to help with their history homework, though.

 

[FIF]

And you think missing a week will affect their understanding of History? If they are good students they'll catch up, if not it didn't matter in the first place.

Having said that I've learned and understood far more about history from travelling than I ever did at school. Spending a term talking about the the world war (can't remember if it was 1 or 2) bored me to death and put me off history completely.

 

[Melton Fox]

#If they are good students they'll catch up

If they are "good students", they won't be going on holiday during term time.

 

[homer]

And you think missing a week will affect their understanding of History? If they are good students they'll catch up, if not it didn't matter in the first place.

If they are not 'good' students, then they will need much more support and assistance rather than being taken out of shcool just for a family holiday

 

[FIF]

If they are "good students", they won't be going on holiday during term time.

that depends on your definition of "good", I meant intelligent, hard working. How many children are going to say to their parents "No I don't want to go to holiday I've got a history lesson on Thursday"?

btw my youngest son (though a genius) hates school and would ot go "every day" if allowed to skip it. Also I'd have no problem with taking him out to go on holiday. In fact our region is a tourist area and therefore a lot of parents run businesses where they have to be working during the holidays. Many take the kids out of school for a week or so attached to a November holiday and go abroad.

 

[fitz]

If they are not 'good' students, then they will need much more support and assistance rather than being taken out of shcool just for a family holiday

but they learn more from splashing about in the sea and hearing English people ordering food in English in a foreign country than they would in School anyway.........

just thought I'd say it and save others the effort

 

[FIF]

If they are not 'good' students, then they will need much more support and assistance rather than being taken out of shcool just for a family holiday

Oh the naivete of this statement.

When did need come into the question of modern education?

 

[Melton Fox]

that depends on your definition of "good",

My definition of a good student would be:

Turns up every day
Attends every lesson
Punctual
Smartly dressed
Polite
Respectful to teachers, staff and fellow pupils
Generally abides by the rules of the school

 

[drummindefender]

My definition of a good student would be:

Turns up every day
Attends every lesson
Punctual
Smartly dressed
Polite
Respectful to teachers, staff and fellow pupils
Generally abides by the rules of the school

just like the young melton fox :icon_lol:

 

[Melton Fox]

just like the young melton fox :icon_lol:

Contrary to the impression you have of me, yes. At college I won Student of the Year.

 

[FIF]

My definition of a good student would be:

Turns up every day
Attends every lesson
Punctual
Smartly dressed
Polite
Respectful to teachers, staff and fellow pupils
Generally abides by the rules of the school

That's nice :icon_bigg. Are there any children in your child's (if you have one) class that meets these criteria? In my many years of contact with education I don't think I've ever met one that "good" even though I've known some outstanding students.

 

[drummindefender]

well done

 

[FIF]

Contrary to the impression you have of me, yes. At college I won Student of the Year.

But did you attend school every day?

 

[Macky]

My definition of a good student would be:

Turns up every day
Attends every lesson
Punctual
Smartly dressed
Polite
Respectful to teachers, staff and fellow pupils
Generally abides by the rules of the school

But that would just be a well behaved, smartly dressed student.
What about paying attention in class and actually doing some work?

 

[FIF]

but they learn more from splashing about in the sea and hearing English people ordering food in English in a foreign country than they would in School anyway.........

just thought I'd say it and save others the effort

I think you underestimate how much can be learnt "just" from doing that but I suppose we should all just take extreme cases to argue the point - it's easier that way. Do you think that's what the little Newts will be doing on holiday?

 

[Melton Fox]

But that would just be a well behaved, smartly dressed student.
What about paying attention in class and actually doing some work?

That would come under "Being respectful to teachers" and "Generally abiding by school rules".

But yes, it probably deserved it's own line.

 

[FIF]

But that would just be a well behaved, smartly dressed student.
What about paying attention in class and actually doing some work?