bocadillo
Water Gypsy
If we are to blame anybody for our semi-final exit I'd go with Wayne Brown for his open racism
Remind me about this.
If we are to blame anybody for our semi-final exit I'd go with Wayne Brown for his open racism
Remind me about this.
He admitted voting for the BNP
Thanks - I'd forgotten that. I didn't like him for totally different reasons.
Care to elaborate?
That's interesting. Was he not widely praised by our fans for his performances? I didn't get to many games back then so I just assumed he was good based on what others had said.
That's interesting. Was he not widely praised by our fans for his performances? I didn't get to many games back then so I just assumed he was good based on what others had said.
Brown was an astute signing in my book. He arrived accompanied with few expectations and certainly no bells or whistles but in the end he played a big part in getting us to the play-offs with one of the league's best defences. He was limited yes, but you didn't often see him doing too much wrong. The fact he turned out to be an absolute bonehead is irrelevant really.
My thoughts too.I still firmly believe that his dressing room antics had a marked effect on that first leg against Cardiff resulting in an uphill struggle in the second. The fact that he contributed in a detrimental way to one or both of the biggest games of the season can, in my opinion, hardly be called irrelevant.
I still firmly believe that his dressing room antics had a marked effect on that first leg against Cardiff resulting in an uphill struggle in the second. The fact that he contributed in a detrimental way to one or both of the biggest games of the season can, in my opinion, hardly be called irrelevant.
In my humble opinion the 2 penalties in discussion are miles apart.
Waghorn hit the target but put it too close to the keeper, maybe, just maybe he isn't the best finisher we have.
However Kermogant clearly thinks he is better than his actual talent suggests. In the pressure cooker of that situation he thought it acceptable to try and chip the keeper which he did so poorly that as I remember it the keeper caught it while sitting on his arse. Wanker of the day by a long stretch.
Plus he still can't see it, or the difference, or have the 'class' to admit he did something badly and Ill judged.
So is knocky! :icon_winkHe is French though......
Kermorgant's penalty wasn't ill judged, though. He'd used the technique several times in France with success. It didn't work against Cardiff but it isn't bad judgement to do something which has brought repeated success in the past.
Why should he apologise? He didn't miss on purpose. I only apologise when I've done something wrong, personally. Clearly he doesn't think he has, and I agree. We lost the match and fancied a scapegoat. I've had a look back through that post-match thread and a lot of the criticism is laced with xenophobia. I wonder of he'd have been labelled 'arrogant' so readily had he not been French. It is a stereotype associated with the French.
If we are to blame anybody for our semi-final exit I'd go with Wayne Brown for his open racism and Nigel Pearsom for his negative approach to the first leg. As it is Kermorgant is the 'villain'. Which is fine. It's part of the fun of being a football supporter. But anybody thinking he owes any sort of apology is deluding themselves.
Have we lost yet?
P | Pld | Pts | |
1 | Liverpool | 11 | 28 |
2 | Manchester C | 11 | 23 |
3 | Chelsea | 11 | 19 |
4 | Arsenal | 11 | 19 |
5 | Nottm F | 11 | 19 |
6 | Brighton | 11 | 19 |
7 | Fulham | 11 | 18 |
8 | Newcastle | 11 | 18 |
9 | Aston Villa | 11 | 18 |
10 | Tottenham | 11 | 16 |
11 | Brentford | 11 | 16 |
12 | Bournemouth | 11 | 15 |
13 | Manchester U | 11 | 15 |
14 | West Ham | 11 | 12 |
15 | Leicester | 11 | 10 |
16 | Everton | 11 | 10 |
17 | Ipswich | 11 | 8 |
18 | Palace | 11 | 7 |
19 | Wolves | 11 | 6 |
20 | Southampton | 11 | 4 |