The Major
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Specious (is that the right word?) argument there Macky. It takes years to become obese and there are far more people who over eat than take drugs.
You can die from drugs the first time you try them.
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Specious (is that the right word?) argument there Macky. It takes years to become obese and there are far more people who over eat than take drugs.
You can die from drugs the first time you try them.
FryattFox
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Do you think that the ratios are comparable?
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Steven
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Why penalise people who want to eat the occasional junk item? Just because fatties cant control themselves, the rest of us should miss out?
In a nutshell you have just articulated why I am against all forms of prohibition. :icon_wink
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RHYDAL
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This is North Wales. Glyn would have been a better stooge for you.
Thinking about it, there are quite a lot of Irish in North Wales. It's possible that one of them was talking to a cockney who mentioned taking a 'pony' on a train and thought he'd do the same.
Macky
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It wasn't me that was making the argument, I was responding to a specious argument.
Nonsense. Drug use is far more widespread than gluttony.
That would depend on which particular drug an individual is trying for the first time, it's statistically very, very unlikely though.
No, not at all.
Absolutely.
It is not the responsibility of the state to legislate against what I can or cannot take into my own body. All forms of prohibition have been proven to be an absolute, miserable failure.
For me, the argument starts and ends with "**** off and mind your own business".
The Major
Active Member
Nah.
fitz
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I assume he means pharmaceuticals, nicotine etc?
Macky
Gruntled Member
That's a very erudite, eloquent and persuasive argument that you've presented there Major.
How many people do you know that are morbidly obese, that overeat to the point that they're putting their health at risk? Compare that to the number of people that you know who might smoke a joint once in a while, if they're feeling daring and reckless. Compare it to the number of people that you know who drink alcohol.
The Major
Active Member
We're not comparing a swift pint with smoking crack are we?
fitz
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Nah, that was the vote yes brigade I think.
Macky
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No, we're comparing drug use with morbid obesity
SwedeFox
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We are however still paying for eachother's healthcare and if I have to pay for what other people do - whether it's overeating, drinking, smoking or whatever - that would annoy me and that's why I think we should have regulations in place.
Macky
Gruntled Member
I don't happen to live in a country that has 'free' healthcare, but if the ridiculous prohibition was abolished and regulations were put in place to legislate for and to tax all of the drugs that are currently being sold by criminals, the revenue from this would easily pay for a health service
SwedeFox
Well-Known Member
And do you think the overall public health would benefit from this?
The Major
Active Member
Nobody mentioned 'morbid' obesity and you don't have to be that overweight for it to be bad for your health.
Macky
Gruntled Member
I'm not sure how you'd quantify a benefit, but it certainly wouldn't be adversely affected. Drug use is already widespread, despite the prohibition, and evidence shows that if prohibition is removed, drug use and the associated crime reduces
Macky
Gruntled Member
People were talking about somebody dropping dead from eating one too many Big Macs, I'd say that would qualify as morbidly obese
The Major
Active Member
Evidence proved that relaxing the licensing laws would reduce drunkenness and that by banning the cane schools would be less violent.
How did that work out?
We should shun them, if we make them think their size is acceptable it will lead to this. Is that what you want? Is it?
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