Post Match Southampton 2 Leicester 3

[Jeff]

There are fouls every week in the penalty box. Most of the time they are ignored.

So you agree that it's a foul then?

 

[popillius]

Yep, totally agree. For me it's not a penalty as there is no way of saying if the player would have even got near the ball. To add, the player neither goes down or complains about the foul. Russell Martin even acknowledged this in his post match interview.

Again, none of that is relevant.

It's a penalty.

 

[silly fox]

Definite penalty for Southampton, as you are seeking to gain an advantage by pulling the players shirt, denying him the chance to go and challenge for the ball. That said, there is an awful lot going on at corners/free kicks these days - blocking the goalkeeper, blocking runners, manhandling attackers etc.

 

[Blue Maniac]

I’m in the “definitely a pen” camp here. If it’s a free kick elsewhere on the pitch, which it would be, it should be a penalty in the box. If that means a spot kick every few minutes and 8-10 goals a game until players learn, then it should.

 

[homer]

I’m in the “definitely a pen” camp here. If it’s a free kick elsewhere on the pitch, which it would be, it should be a penalty in the box. If that means a spot kick every few minutes and 8-10 goals a game until players learn, then it should.

Happens anywhere else on the pitch it’s a free kick and a yellow card

But because the bloke probably wouldn’t have made it to the ball ahead of the keeper it’s not an offence?

Everybody has gone complete wibble on this one, especially the daft VAR ****s

 

[Micky]

So you agree that it's a foul then?

Yes of course. I also know that not all fouls are given in football. Because it is impossible to do so.

 

[Micky]

Again, none of that is relevant.

It's a penalty.

Only if it's given.

 

[Micky]

I’m in the “definitely a pen” camp here. If it’s a free kick elsewhere on the pitch, which it would be, it should be a penalty in the box. If that means a spot kick every few minutes and 8-10 goals a game until players learn, then it should.

This has been said for years but it will never happen.

 

[bocadillo]

The thing that seems clear to me is that VAR was supposed to lessen controversy. In that it has failed miserably. I think I have said before, one man, the referee, with only two eyes can be excused for getting things wrong. VAR with all its camera angles and the ability to view things frame-by-frame has no excuse for being unable to satisfy everybody on the correctness of its decisions.

 

[City Fan]

VAR with all its camera angles and the ability to view things frame-by-frame has no excuse for being unable to satisfy everybody on the correctness of its decisions.

It will never be able to on grey areas, of which there are and will always be plenty.

 

[pork pie fox]

The thing that seems clear to me is that VAR was supposed to lessen controversy. In that it has failed miserably. I think I have said before, one man, the referee, with only two eyes can be excused for getting things wrong. VAR with all its camera angles and the ability to view things frame-by-frame has no excuse for being unable to satisfy everybody on the correctness of its decisions.

I think it has made things harder for referees, in that it has removed the leeway they would have if they only get one chance to see an incident. Before, if a referee missed something, they would normally be excused to a degree, in that sometimes things are missed. Now, with VAR, they’re expected to get everything right and, as we see, they don’t always do that, so they get hammered more for it.

 

[Chrysalis]

Video here explaining Faes and Winks worked out a corner, and Ayew had the same thought so struck the ball. Coaches giving them creative freedom.

 

[Chrysalis]

Happens anywhere else on the pitch it’s a free kick and a yellow card

But because the bloke probably wouldn’t have made it to the ball ahead of the keeper it’s not an offence?

Everybody has gone complete wibble on this one, especially the daft VAR ****s

Yeah, the issue is if ref's feel its not worth a free shot against keeper they wont give it even though its a foul.

So like you said either just start giving loads of penalties till they learn, or add a new rule that fouls in box that are not blocking an attempt on goal are a free kick at edge of box.

I remember a few years back, they decided to tighten up the rule with hand balls, and some ref's started enforcing it correctly so was an increase in penalties, but some ref's bottled it so immediately was inconsistencies, then was moans that attackers would deliberately hit it against arms to get penalties, so they bottled it and backed down. I think they would never have the balls to keep giving penalties so instead we just get fouls being ignored unless they considered a block on goal.