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Keep it under wraps, and whip it out as you approach the Leicester police.
 
I had thought of that but I wasn't sure if it's possible to go that way now they've installed ticket barriers.

There is a ticket barrier there too.
 
Bocadillo I've already stated earlier that I have always got around this type of control by the police, frankly I don't care how anyone else gets on, learns some law and plan your travel and you'll be ok in my experience.

If only you knew.

I do plan in exactly the same way as you do but it is not fool-proof. I think you said that you travel with your wife - this is sometimes, but not always, helpful in avoiding unnecessary attention. So is being over 50 - but not always.

You are right that the police have to give a reason to detain you, but that reason could be as sketchy as "I have reason to believe whatever" - they don't have to say what that reason is.
 
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I do plan in exactly the same way as you do but it is not fool-proof. I think you said that you travel with your wife - this is sometimes, but not always, helpful in avoiding unnecessary attention. So is being over 50 - but not always.

You are right that the police have to give a reason to detain you, but that reason could be as sketchy as "I have reason to believe whatever" - they don't have to say what that reason is.

The fact my wife is studying to become a barrister may help.
 
Fans of Reading Football Club say they were the victims of "illegal searches" by British Transport Police (BTP).

The Supporters' Trust At Reading (STAR) claim fans at the town's train station in football paraphernalia were searched and screened by a metal detector.

But the group said anyone wearing normal clothing on Saturday, including other supporters, were let through.

The BTP said the searches were legal, but STAR said the Independent Police Complaints Commission would be told.


Jon Keen (yes Boc, that Jon Keen), vice-chair of STAR, said officers were targeting supporters trying to catch trains to London, where Reading were playing Arsenal at the Emirates Stadium.

He said: "These stop and searches must be based upon clear police intelligence and cannot be based upon stereotyping.

"But it's clear from the fact that police were stopping everyone who looked like a football supporter - and no-one else - they targeted travelling supporters for no good reason except the fact that they were football supporters.

"We're getting fed up with being discriminated against purely because our chosen leisure activity is watching football.

'Stop fans'

"On this basis we're convinced that these searches were illegal, and we'll be making a complaint to the IPCC about this as soon as possible."

A BTP spokesman said officers had been told to stop groups of fans and ask them to walk through the metal detector, but denied everyone wearing football shirts and scarves had been stopped.

He added: "BTP is committed to reducing instances of football related violence, which have in fact increased in recent years.

"This particular initiative was part of a nationwide operation that was organised for a busy day of domestic football fixtures."

There were no arrests made during the operation in Reading on Saturday.

The IPCC said it would investigate any complaint fully.

Source
 
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Fans of Reading Football Club say they were the victims of "illegal searches" by British Transport Police (BTP).

The Supporters' Trust At Reading (STAR) claim fans at the town's train station in football paraphernalia were searched and screened by a metal detector.

But the group said anyone wearing normal clothing on Saturday, including other supporters, were let through.

The BTP said the searches were legal, but STAR said the Independent Police Complaints Commission would be told.


Jon Keen (yes Boc, that Jon Keen), vice-chair of STAR, said officers were targeting supporters trying to catch trains to London, where Reading were playing Arsenal at the Emirates Stadium.

He said: "These stop and searches must be based upon clear police intelligence and cannot be based upon stereotyping.

"But it's clear from the fact that police were stopping everyone who looked like a football supporter - and no-one else - they targeted travelling supporters for no good reason except the fact that they were football supporters.

"We're getting fed up with being discriminated against purely because our chosen leisure activity is watching football.

'Stop fans'

"On this basis we're convinced that these searches were illegal, and we'll be making a complaint to the IPCC about this as soon as possible."

A BTP spokesman said officers had been told to stop groups of fans and ask them to walk through the metal detector, but denied everyone wearing football shirts and scarves had been stopped.

He added: "BTP is committed to reducing instances of football related violence, which have in fact increased in recent years.

"This particular initiative was part of a nationwide operation that was organised for a busy day of domestic football fixtures."

There were no arrests made during the operation in Reading on Saturday.

The IPCC said it would investigate any complaint fully.

Source

That operation was apparently organised for an expected bunch of Leeds fans who would change train at Reading for their visit to Millwalll.
 
The fact my wife is studying to become a barrister may help.

No point in arguing with the the husband of a trainee barrister then. Not one that knows everything there is to know.
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Fans of Reading Football Club say they were the victims of "illegal searches" by British Transport Police (BTP).

The Supporters' Trust At Reading (STAR) claim fans at the town's train station in football paraphernalia were searched and screened by a metal detector.

But the group said anyone wearing normal clothing on Saturday, including other supporters, were let through.

The BTP said the searches were legal, but STAR said the Independent Police Complaints Commission would be told.


Jon Keen (yes Boc, that Jon Keen), vice-chair of STAR, said officers were targeting supporters trying to catch trains to London, where Reading were playing Arsenal at the Emirates Stadium.

He said: "These stop and searches must be based upon clear police intelligence and cannot be based upon stereotyping.

"But it's clear from the fact that police were stopping everyone who looked like a football supporter - and no-one else - they targeted travelling supporters for no good reason except the fact that they were football supporters.

"We're getting fed up with being discriminated against purely because our chosen leisure activity is watching football.

'Stop fans'

"On this basis we're convinced that these searches were illegal, and we'll be making a complaint to the IPCC about this as soon as possible."

A BTP spokesman said officers had been told to stop groups of fans and ask them to walk through the metal detector, but denied everyone wearing football shirts and scarves had been stopped.

He added: "BTP is committed to reducing instances of football related violence, which have in fact increased in recent years.

"This particular initiative was part of a nationwide operation that was organised for a busy day of domestic football fixtures."

There were no arrests made during the operation in Reading on Saturday.

The IPCC said it would investigate any complaint fully.

Source

They didn't illegally search anyone not in colours it seems.
 
No point in arguing with the the husband of a trainee barrister then. Not one that knows everything there is to know.
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The police generally backdown when faced with someone who can actually quote real law at them rather than the abbreviated cr@p they are taught in their training, as I said it works for me!

(Saying this I'll probably get arrested at Stoke)
 
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The police generally backdown when faced with someone who can actually quote real law at them rather than the abbreviated cr@p they are taught in their training, as I said it works for me!

Probably does if you're white, middle class and of a certain age, yes. That's not a dig at you at all, but I suspect such factors help a lot. Happily, I am rapidly approaching that certain age :icon_bigg

One thing I've found almost always cuts short a bag search is a copy of the Guardian or, even better, the London Review Of Books. Perhaps Jeff might consider investing in one of these publications and making sure the masthead is prominently displayed as he strides out of the station in a civilised, urbane fashion.
 
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