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The decision on who should be captain is the manager's to make. Not The FA. He had every right to be pissed off. Also, Terry has not been found guilty of racial abuse. I don't like the guy but it is a little harsh to strip him of the opportunity to lead out his country for what will be his last major tournament based on an ALLEGATION. It's a soft decision too. Either boot him out completely or let him keep the captaincy. The current situation can't be good for him or the rest of the squad and may just be an attempt to make him retire.
 
Stuart P will need additional help, also as running Olympic team as well, perhaps a certain Jamie R will become part of the set up, seems to have been working alongside another well known manager over the last couple of weeks
 
spionfox said:
Most of the media in this country have wanted Capello out since the day he was appointed. The way this Terry incident has been sensationalised there was only going to be one outcome.
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It's been far less of a sensationalist case than the Suarrez affair. The FA tied their own hands with their handling of that and there had to act in some way on the Terry case. If they had let it go, then what type of message does that send? That if you're an England player, it can all be swept under the carpet?
 
Han said:
The decision on who should be captain is the manager's to make. Not The FA. He had every right to be pissed off. Also, Terry has not been found guilty of racial abuse. I don't like the guy but it is a little harsh to strip him of the opportunity to lead out his country for what will be his last major tournament based on an ALLEGATION. It's a soft decision too. Either boot him out completely or let him keep the captaincy. The current situation can't be good for him or the rest of the squad and may just be an attempt to make him retire.
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As harsh as banning a fellow player for 8 games and fining him, for an even weaker allegation. He is innocent until proven guilty but so was Suarrez and then case would have never got anywhere near a court but they were very quick to make a scapegoat of him. They had to take some sort of action against him.
 
Redknapp would be a mug to take the job imo.

He's on the verge of something special with Spurs whereas if he takes the England job he'll have his career destroyed by the media much like everyone else.
 
gregs_y2k said:
As harsh as banning a fellow player for 8 games and fining him, for an even weaker allegation. He is innocent until proven guilty but so was Suarrez and then case would have never got anywhere near a court but they were very quick to make a scapegoat of him. They had to take some sort of action against him.
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Even weaker allegation? Suarez admitted to using the word.
 
Profondo Rosso said:
Even weaker allegation? Suarez admitted to using the word.
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In a totally different context, the whole issue with the Suarrez case was there were huge linguistic implications. One of them being the fact the conversation took place in Spannish. This case is far more cut and dry but there is still enough doubt for him to be found not guilty in a court of law, because lip reading isn't a 100% accurate and therefore the FA could then wash their hands of it and take he heat off them. The fact it got adjourned until after the Euro's scuppered this and meant they had to take some kind of stance s it was dragging out for too long.
 
I don't really have any thoughts on whether Suarez should have been found guilty or not, as I don't know the complete details of the case, but the defendant admitting to using a word is definitely not an even weaker allegation than lip reading imo and the language the conversation took place in should make no difference if he is considered to be inciting hatred towards him because of his race.

I'm with Han btw, stripping Terry of the captaincy before he was found guilty was a mockery. No problem with it if he was to be found guilty, but the whole legal system is rightfully built on an innocent til proven guilty system.
 
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Profondo Rosso said:
I don't really have any thoughts on whether Suarez should have been found guilty or not, as I don't know the complete details of the case, but the defendant admitting to using a word is definitely not an even weaker allegation than lip reading imo and the language the conversation took place in should make no difference if he is considered to be inciting hatred towards him because of his race.

I'm with Han btw, stripping Terry of the captaincy before he was found guilty was a mockery. No problem with it if he was to be found guilty, but the whole legal system is rightfully built on an innocent til proven guilty system.
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That's the thing though, it isn't as cut and dry as that. As someone who has studied linguistics, I know that you can't simply take a word from one language or culture and directly translate it. Suarrez said yes I called him black but I said it in the same way that I would call black friends, as a term of endearment. The FA used the fact that they were in a dispute and arguing as evidence that he used it as racial abuse, but the crux of the argument came afterward and throughout Suarrez isn't scowling or showing any signs of aggression with the way he talks. It's all very laid back on his part. He refutes saying what is Evra claims he said.

Like I said it's not cut and dry and for the FA to act on it without any proper evidence was ridiculous. They made him into a scapegoat and were quick to label him as a racist without any proof of guilt. Why then should Terry be treated differently to him when his case has more documentable evidence to it, less ambiguity regarding meaning and intent? In my opinion action shouldn't have been taken on either until they were proven guilty but when they neglected to offer that to Suarrez, they then have to follow the same procedure for everyone else and in my opinion losing the Captaincy is getting off lightly still
 
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Richie said:
Not very good? In competitive games his record is P19 W13 D5 L1. The one that was lost there was a disgraceful decision that didn't go England's way.
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We were still completely outplayed in that match though
 
I can't see us really making an impression at the Euros, maybe Capello recogizes that and helped his decision to go against the FA publicly.

The England set up has been a bit of a shambles for as long as I can remember.
 
Billyjof said:
At 2-2 against a young German team anything could have happened. We lost to a better team but I still feel slightly robbed.
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Possibly, but that was the only 5 min or 10 minutes in the match where we looked remotely competitive. They were a far better organised outfit than we were and I think they would have still overturned us, as much as it pains me to say it.
 
Miles Away said:
Shows poor judgment to basically go to the wall defending a certified wanker like Terry. There you go.
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Not arguing that John Terry is a certified wanker, but Capello has basically stood up for his principles and his belief that until a man is proven guilty, he is innocent. Can't argue with that.
 
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