Family's dream holiday in ruins

[newtonfox]

Newts, it was a joke; I lived there for four years, so I know what's there!!

just playing along :icon_wink

 

[LS6_Fox]

We have great holidays around the med ,just have to find the right place .

What's wrong with something like Euro Camp, which must save some notes in your wallet?

 

[From Gradel to Grave]

You put Bob Monkhouse in the shade. Your wasted on here

To be fair there are quite a few who are wasted on here.

Macky and Innocent for a start... :icon_wink

 

[newtonfox]

What's wrong with something like Euro Camp, which must save some notes in your wallet?

my wife don't do carravans :icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

 

[newtonfox]

To be fair there are quite a few who are wasted on here.

Macky and Innocent for a start... :icon_wink

:icon_bigg:icon_bigg

 

[Leesoh]

yes the holiday is for the our kids as much as it is for us ,but if you think going Devon and Butlins is fine then that's up too you .

we prefer our kids too see a bit of the world and different cultures .

and not beer and chicken and chip nights,we don't go on holiday for that, when you can have that at home.

I am guessing by your comments you like that type of holiday

We don't .

My parents took us to Butlins every year. There was stuff for us to do day and night, but it didn't mean we spent all our time on the camp.

Indeed we are but not to smoke.there is more to holland than a bit of weed you know :icon_wink

There's more to the British Isles than beer, chicken and chip nights. :icon_wink

 

[newtonfox]

My parents took us to Butlins every year. There was stuff for us to do day and night, but it didn't mean we spent all our time on the camp.

There's more to the British Isles than beer, chicken and chip nights. :icon_wink

Not much though :icon_bigg :icon_wink

 

[Leesoh]

Not much though :icon_bigg :icon_wink

Have you never seen the wildlife on show in Skagness of an evening? :icon_bigg

 

[bocadillo]

... but seeing as we are allowed the school is not a problem for us .

You ask the school to break the rules for you - and the school agrees to break the rules for you - and you don't see that as a problem?

 

[GazLCFC]

yes the holiday is for the our kids as much as it is for us ,but if you think going Devon and Butlins is fine then that's up too you .

we prefer our kids too see a bit of the world and different cultures .

and not beer and chicken and chip nights,we don't go on holiday for that, when you can have that at home.

I am guessing by your comments you like that type of holiday

We don't .




We dont like that type of holiday too many prats,JUST WANTING TO GET SHIT FACED EVERY NIGHT,GREAT FUN :icon_roll:icon_roll

Have you ever done that type of holiday? The wife and I often go to Caravan Parks for a break. Some of the vans we have stayed in are like a home from home (they even have gas:icon_wink). Using The Suns £9.50 holiday thingy we have a cheap few days away from home and work. I must say that I have never seen Parents pissed up (excessively) and all the kids have a great time.
I want to see the British Isles and there is as much to do as anywhere else.

 

[Melton Fox]

yes the holiday is for the our kids as much as it is for us ,but if you think going Devon and Butlins is fine then that's up too you .

we prefer our kids too see a bit of the world and different cultures .

and not beer and chicken and chip nights,we don't go on holiday for that, when you can have that at home.

I am guessing by your comments you like that type of holiday

We don't .




We dont like that type of holiday too many prats,JUST WANTING TO GET SHIT FACED EVERY NIGHT,GREAT FUN :icon_roll:icon_roll

Snob.

I take my children to the English seaside every year, but I don't allow them to come into contact with drunk people in pubs. They love the arcades, amusements, rides, the beach and the donkeys.

I'd suggest that package holidays offer very little culture other then that of a typical English person on holiday, which to be honest is a culture that I am happy for them to forsake.

 

[spionfox]

I'd suggest that package holidays offer very little culture other then that of a typical English person on holiday, which to be honest is a culture that I am happy for them to forsake.

Depends.

We went to Laganas (Zante) earlier this year. Laganos is the party capital of Zante and first thing in the morning the shopkeepers are to be found hosing down the pavements to get rid of the blood, sick and broken glass.

However, if we turned left instead of right when getting to the beach we found turtle nests, golden sand, unspoilt beaches and local people rather than sunburnt drunken British ****s.

Holidays are what you make them.

 

[Melton Fox]

Depends

I know, I was entering the conversation the level it had already been set at.....ignorant.

 

[newtonfox]

Snob.

I take my children to the English seaside every year, but I don't allow them to come into contact with drunk people in pubs. They love the arcades, amusements, rides, the beach and the donkeys.

I'd suggest that package holidays offer very little culture other then that of a typical English person on holiday, which to be honest is a culture that I am happy for them to forsake.

Maybe i am but i don't give a **** ,we do what we do :icon_wink

 

[newtonfox]

I know, I was entering the conversation the level it had already been set at.....ignorant.

Not really i just like my kids too see the world and not just the uk .

 

[newtonfox]

Have you never seen the wildlife on show in Skagness of an evening? :icon_bigg

yeah we have thats why we dont go :icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

 

[Melton Fox]

Maybe i am but i don't give a **** ,we do what we do :icon_wink

That's fine, and I 100% applaud you for that.

But it isn't nice to have somebody look down at their nose at you, or appear to, because they don't share your idea of a nice holiday.

I love English seaside holidays, and all my childhood life I had the piss taken out of me for not going abroad and not having any money. Truth is, we never, but what we did do we really enjoyed, and my children also really enjoy the English seaside. I hope they never get the same snobbish attitude from people that I got, especially from adults.

 

[FIF]

I haven't read the 10 pages of posts since these comments, so please excuse that but it seems some of you actually believe that our education system is an efficient way to prepare our kids for life .

I would say that Primary schooling is not bad but secondary schooling and in particular university are very inefficient poor systems that need to be brought into the new millenium.

But what about the other kids that suffer? My missus had 3 kids away on holiday last October from her class and then had to spend time when they got back making sure they got up to scratch and could catch up on work, time that meant she couldn't spend helping the other kids progress. If the kids and their parents where prepared to put in the time at home to catch up it wouldn't be such a problem, but they expect the school to deal with it and make sure they catch up in school time.

I don't disagree with your premise but it's not realistic. during this time were their no children away with colds or illnesses etc..? Do you really think that all of the children in the class understood immediately what the teacher was teaching? Do you really think that even one of the children in the class uses the teachers time to its optimum? Do you think the teachers do?

A child who is struggling at school is not going to benefit more from a week in Benidorm with some scrotey chav family

They would be far better off staying in school actually getting the direct support that they may well genuinely need

Seems a rather narrow example from a narrow minded view, since I suppose that all children that go on holiday in term time are not from "scrotey chav families" nor do all children go to Benidorm, nor are all children struggling at school. but if we take your example as a good one, then I'd suggest that the system is already failing this child (one of the reasons that they are struggling) and one week in the sunshine sampling the culture of a foreign country, having travelled by plane to spend some quality time with the family unit would be far more beneficial than doing whatever it is they do at a school that has failed them so far in life. Considering their situation it's doubtful that they actually missed much during the week that they would have retained and quite possibly their absence was helpful to all of the other little angels in class who were able to concentrate on their work getting more teacher attention without those terrible chav children around.

Did you just say without engaging your brain?

If only you had a brain to engage.

Probably not - it's an excuse I have heard many many times as a school governor working with the head on looking at applications.

It is however a theory worth exploring further - send all the kids on permanent holidays, just nipping back to do their final exams. As a result they will be better educated, results will improve, and we'll save billions on schools, teachers etc.

normally I respect your views OG but if you look at applications from that biased POV then I think you're making a mistake and should probably step aside for someone else. I have no doubt that my children have learned a great deal whilst on holiday with my wife and I. I also know for a fact (having always been closely associated with the pedagogical side of education) that children don't get to maximise learning potential in a class of 30 kids, that the system is not set up for any individual child ( merely to survive all 30+) and that the sum total of acquired knowledge and skills from a school education is pathetically low compared to the potential of an efficient education system.

Anyone who thinks our antiquated, out of date, administrative, security centred, risk-aversed, overloaded system manned by poorly skilled un-motivated god-syndromed teachers is a good system clearly passed through it without developing independant thought.

 

[FIF]

That's fine, and I 100% applaud you for that.

But it isn't nice to have somebody look down at their nose at you, or appear to, because they don't share your idea of a nice holiday.

I love English seaside holidays, and all my childhood life I had the piss taken out of me for not going abroad and not having any money. Truth is, we never, but what we did do we really enjoyed, and my children also really enjoy the English seaside. I hope they never get the same snobbish attitude from people that I got, especially from adults.

I love the British seaside too.

 

[Melton Fox]

I love the British seaside too.

Aye, I should have said "British", sorry.

Had a couple of good childhood holidays visiting friends who live in the Tenby area.