FOX Franks
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It's amazing how people's expectations sky rocket.
I like how people are suddenly on Vardy's back for having a few games without scoring. Thought he was unlucky on Saturday.
It's amazing how people's expectations sky rocket.
Naah, a Premier League striker should score there IMO. But he's allowed a couple of off-weeks, especially if injured.I like how people are suddenly on Vardy's back for having a few games without scoring. Thought he was unlucky on Saturday.
Absolutely, it was a really good chance, but it's not as if he squandered loads of chances in the game. It looked like it had hit the post and gone in from where I was sat. How disappointingNaah, a Premier League striker should score there IMO. But he's allowed a couple of off-weeks, especially if injured.
Ha I was expecting it to be honest but, bar Saturday, the fans have been superb this season. Then again, this is the first real slip and test of our character.
And rightly so. Yes, he got the ball, but just a slight touch which didn't remove Vardy's goal scoring opportunity.The FA have rejected Bournemouth's appeal against their red card.
http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/footbal...ejects-appeal-against-francis-red_263552.html
And rightly so. Yes, he got the ball, but just a slight touch which didn't remove Vardy's goal scoring opportunity.
That kinda doesn't make sense though does it?It doesn't matter whether he won the ball or not. You're not allowed to take the player before or after taking the ball - makes no difference.
That kinda doesn't make sense though does it?
Why do you think the one he got was not a penalty?It was interesting to hear Howard Webb talk about the Aguero 'penalty' against us. Although, there was clearly contact in the box with Inler missing the ball entirely, he said he wouldn't have given it. For him, contact is a natural part of the game all over the pitch and you have to interpret whether the contact is sufficient to impede the player or not, rather than simply interpret any contact as a foul.
I agree with this but it does make every contact in the box extremely subjective. Vardy goes down in the area to win penalties more than any other player and he often does it with minimal contact. Both examples against Bournemouth were in this category for me. Neither were penalties, despite there being 'minimal' contact. However, once a ref has given the penalty, he has to send off Francis and then the appeal has to be rejected because there is contact.
Why do you think the one he got was not a penalty?
For exactly the reason in the above post. There was contact but it wasn't a foul. If that challenge had happened in the centre circle it would have been called a good tackle.
For some reason, we consider challenges in the penalty area as somehow different from those elsewhere. It happens all the time at corners with clear fouls being ignored.
Agree with your second point and to an extent with your first point. However, I think the penalty Vardy got was correct. By moving his body in between Francis and the ball, he provokes the situation. Yes, Francis gets a toe on the ball, but he doesn't get it away and Vardy still has the goal scoring opportunity. That is if he had been able to stay on his feet, which Francis prevented him from doing. I agree that Vardy too often seeks penalties and it annoys me a bit. He did it in that situation too and was successful in doing it. Correct decision by the ref this time.For exactly the reason in the above post. There was contact but it wasn't a foul. If that challenge had happened in the centre circle it would have been called a good tackle.
For some reason, we consider challenges in the penalty area as somehow different from those elsewhere. It happens all the time at corners with clear fouls being ignored.
...this just goes to show how ridiculously subjective decisions are within football.
Of course it was a foul. The defender took his legs. The fact that it wouldn't be given if it occurred in the centre circle (if that is in fact true) is the problem. Most of the "clear fouls" that happen at corners occur when the ball is out of play.
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